what is your philosophy???

[dthmstr254]

Please use the following format if possible.


I. Metaphysics-“What is ultimately real?”
A. Ontology- the study of existence or being.
B. Cosmology- what is ultimately real in the universe?
C. Teleology- what is the purpose of our existence
D. Questions to be considered
1. Reality vs. Appearance
2. Existence vs. Symbols
3. Product vs. Process
4. Purpose vs. Purposelessness—Purposeful change—Will of God—Sovereignty of God
5. What is not
6. What cannot be
7. What might be
II. Epistemology—“What is true?”—“How do we know truth?”
A. Questions to be considered
1. The nature of cognitive processes
2. The sources of human knowledge
3. Methods of validating ideas
4. What do we teach, out of all that is known
a. What is most authentic or accurate?
b. What is most important?
c. Who decides what shall be learned?
5. How can or will students best learn the truths we decide they should know?
B. The way in which we learn something affects how much trust we place in its value, true or false?
C. Five ways of knowing, which one do you choose mostly?
1. Scientific Method—senses, empiricism
2. Deductive reasoning—rational logic
3. Experience—feeling, intuition
4. Common sense—“everybody knows it”
5. Revelation/authority: Divine authority and human authority experts—three kinds of revelation:
a. Written
b. Personal
c. General
III. Axiology—“What is of value?
A. Ethics—the question of conduct
B. Aesthetics—the question of enjoyment and taste
IV. Anthropology—the study of man
A. The origin of man
B. The continuation of man
C. The nature of man
D. The purpose of man
E. The reconciliation (if any) of man
F. The will of man
G. The behavior of man
This is the end of the form, if you like please fill it out so we all have a point that we can look back to see what people believe in this complex branch of life.

[Lilith]

Good grief! So many to choose from. I'm not really sure. But I will say this, I have started reading some of the stories in the Bible, my favorite version is the NIV Life Application Bible, all the good little notes that go along with each story and verses, I can't stand the KJV! I have tons of books on astrology, gnostic, saints, etc. I don't attend a chruch, prob never will, I tend to like to learn things on my own, explore all the different knowledge. I just love to read and learn. I believe in something greater than us, I'm just not sure how to define that something. I tend to lean more towards some philosophies and religions than others, because simply I find some stuff out there pure crap. But that's just my opinion.

[dthmstr254]

Quote by: Lilith Good grief! So many to choose from. I'm not really sure. But I will say this, I have started reading some of the stories in the Bible, my favorite version is the NIV Life Application Bible, all the good little notes that go along with each story and verses, I can't stand the KJV! I have tons of books on astrology, gnostic, saints, etc. I don't attend a chruch, prob never will, I tend to like to learn things on my own, explore all the different knowledge. I just love to read and learn. I believe in something greater than us, I'm just not sure how to define that something. I tend to lean more towards some philosophies and religions than others, because simply I find some stuff out there pure crap. But that's just my opinion.

whats this gotta do with the topic.

[Athena]

Quote by: dthmstr254 Please use the following format if possible. II. Epistemology—“What is true?”—“How do we know truth?” A. Questions to be considered 1. The nature of cognitive processes 2. The sources of human knowledge 3. Methods of validating ideas 4. What do we teach, out of all that is known a. What is most authentic or accurate? b. What is most important? c. Who decides what shall be learned? 5. How can or will students best learn the truths we decide they should know? B. The way in which we learn something affects how much trust we place in its value, true or false? C. Five ways of knowing, which one do you choose mostly? 1. Scientific Method—senses, empiricism 2. Deductive reasoning—rational logic 3. Experience—feeling, intuition 4. Common sense—“everybody knows it” 5. Revelation/authority: Divine authority and human authority experts—three kinds of revelation: a. Written b. Personal c. General

That is my favorite! Can I have all of it?



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III. Axiology—“What is of value?
A. Ethics—the question of conduct
B. Aesthetics—the question of enjoyment and taste
IV. Anthropology—the study of man
A. The origin of man
B. The continuation of man
C. The nature of man
D. The purpose of man
E. The reconciliation (if any) of man
F. The will of man
G. The behavior of man
This is the end of the form, if you like please fill it out so we all have a point that we can look back to see what people believe in this complex branch of life.[/quote]

I don't see how the this can be separated from the rest. In these choices, anthropology is my favorite.

discussing this stuff is my idea of heaven. I don't think anything could make me happier, and it is curious to me that not many people seem to share this interest, but have equally good and different interest. I mean what is curious is we don't all want the same thing, and none of us is attracted to everything equally. It is strange to me that I know I am attracted most to Epistemology. I know absolutely no one with whom I can I have lunch and spend time talking about this stuff. Thank the powers that be, for the internet and an increased opportunity to have interesting discussions.

[dthmstr254]

Quote by: Athena That is my favorite! Can I have all of it?

III. Axiology—“What is of value?
A. Ethics—the question of conduct
B. Aesthetics—the question of enjoyment and taste
IV. Anthropology—the study of man
A. The origin of man
B. The continuation of man
C. The nature of man
D. The purpose of man
E. The reconciliation (if any) of man
F. The will of man
G. The behavior of man
This is the end of the form, if you like please fill it out so we all have a point that we can look back to see what people believe in this complex branch of life.[/quote]

I don't see how the this can be separated from the rest. In these choices, anthropology is my favorite.

discussing this stuff is my idea of heaven. I don't think anything could make me happier, and it is curious to me that not many people seem to share this interest, but have equally good and different interest. I mean what is curious is we don't all want the same thing, and none of us is attracted to everything equally. It is strange to me that I know I am attracted most to Epistemology. I know absolutely no one with whom I can I have lunch and spend time talking about this stuff. Thank the powers that be, for the internet and an increased opportunity to have interesting discussions.[/quote]
then what is your belief in these things?

[SteveA]

I must admit I can't quite figure out how the categories work but I'll just pull out the versions of some of them that I prefer:

I. Metaphysics-“What is ultimately real?” A. Ontology- the study of existence or being. B. Cosmology- what is ultimately real in the universe? C. Teleology- what is the purpose of our existence D. Questions to be considered

I don't see a specific purpose to reality but I think there's value looking for them. Reality is a journey that we learn from. So the process and direction of it seem most important to me.

1. Reality vs. Appearance 2. Existence vs. Symbols 3. Product vs. Process 4. Purpose vs. Purposelessness—Purposeful change—Will of God—Sovereignty of God 5. What is not 6. What cannot be 7. What might be

I don't like #2 much, symbols tend to over simplify or misrepresent things.

#7 "What might be" - this one is the fun one. It sort of leaves opens new non-obvious possibilities. So there's more to explore with this perspective.

II. Epistemology—“What is true?”—“How do we know truth?” A. Questions to be considered 1. The nature of cognitive processes 2. The sources of human knowledge 3. Methods of validating ideas

I enjoy statistics and algorithms. I see learning as making sense of chaos, we try to find things that correlate or have patterns and we continually tie these pieces of information, along with their relationship together in our minds. The rest we toss out, though it's just as real, we don't understand it.

The two things we don't "see" are things that are complex or chaotic enough that our minds never make sense of them and also things that are so common and recurring that we become sensitized to them and don't notice them.

But anyway, I think we learn by taking large amounts of unintelligible information and slowly sifting through it to find the non-random, and predictable. Once something is sufficiently predictable and instinctively understood we move on to other things that catch our attention, constantly searching along the coastline of chaos.

4. What do we teach, out of all that is known a. What is most authentic or accurate? b. What is most important? c. Who decides what shall be learned?

I think we teach to benefit, but I'm torn between whether or not biasing what one teaches is good or bad. I used to think biasing information taught to someone can be useful but I've been thinking more that there's the greatest benefit from unbiased information.

I think a person themself should be the main director in what they learn.

[quote]5. How can or will students best learn the truths we decide they should know?
B. The way in which we learn something affects how much trust we place in its value, true or false?
C. Five ways of knowing, which one do you choose mostly?
1. Scientific Method—senses, empiricism
2. Deductive reasoning—rational logic
3. Experience—feeling, intuition
4. Common sense—“everybody knows it”
5. Revelation/authority: Divine authority and human authority experts—three kinds of revelation:
a. Written
b. Personal
c. General[/quote[

I think people differ in how they learn to place trust in things. There isn't a single way to teach everyone that creates the most trust in the value of the information. People calculate validity or accuracy of information in different ways, that depend on their prior experiences.

For me it's mostly C #1, - sense, and empiricism. though to a degree #4 common sense but I trust most things I've learned first hand.

The way I see things is that there are some relationships learned from various physical phenomenon - like attraction/gravity/acceleration/pressure/force/stiffness/fluidity/friction etc.

I tend to place things I see or read about into an internal model of "how the world works", using these "tools". I prefer it when I can observe things and verify the operation matches my internal model but oftentimes I just leave some model in place and wait to see if it pans out and update it if necessary.

Things that don't fit well, I just toss aside and leave for another day - maybe I'll learn some new tools that will make sense of it in the future.

III. Axiology—“What is of value? A. Ethics—the question of conduct B. Aesthetics—the question of enjoyment and taste IV. Anthropology—the study of man A. The origin of man B. The continuation of man C. The nature of man D. The purpose of man E. The reconciliation (if any) of man F. The will of man G. The behavior of man

The big ones here for me are probably Aesthetics "the question of enjoyment and taste" and "The continuation of man". The most important things for humanity as a whole is to continue existing and try to enjoy the ride. :) At least that's probably the closest way to describe my view.

Interesting post too, thanks.

[Athena]

[quote=dthmstr254]III.

Axiology—“What is of value? then what is your belief in these things

Quick edit, I value knowledge for the sake of knowledge? I don't know? I just love a mystery, and human history is full of mysteries, especially when we add to that the possiblity that there is more to life than what we precieve.

I am not sure what you mean by that question. There are too many "things". The only general answer I can think of is to ask questions and more questions, and never stop asking questions.

I especially love trying to find the origin of a concept and if possible what caused awareness of that concept, and then where did that concept travel and how has it mixed with other concepts. For example the concept of God changes in the bible, and also changes since the history of the bible. The effect barbarism had on Chrisitianity is interesting. The German effect on Christianity is well worth studying. The impact of weather and environment on the characteristics and behavior of humans is fascinating.

Oh my goodness, I am reminded of a college class where the professor gave everyone a lemon and told everyone to study their lemon carefully and report what they learned about their lemon. I was the only one in the class to peel and eat my lemon. To my shock, everyone else only looked at the outside of their lemons. It was as though I were guilty of cannibolism, but how can you really know a lemon if you only looked at the outside?

[Athena]

I got to add, I have studied brain function and know there is a difference between right brain and left thinking, between concrete thinking and abstract thinking, and that we tend to think concretely until we learn to think abstractly. I know our langauges give us different world views. Hebrew and Arabic languages are associated with math. Chinese is poetic. From Rome we become very matericalistic. Athens was not so materialistic, but more a language of verbs, as Mayans and Aztecs are more verb conscious and they used harmomic math that has more spiritual implications than our general high school understanding of math. This harmonic math is more like Pythagoras or Kabalah. The West uses linear logic and the east uses wholeistic logic. Our cultures determine what makes sense to us and what does not. Oh yes, how we think what we think, is the most interesting of all!

Another huge difference in our thinking is not all people are as dependent on the "word" as Europeans and the people in the US. Some cultures remain dependent on pictures and this is a whole different way of thinking. Not all cultures have our sense of time, and this makes a huge difference in world view. Oh dear, I feel like the pot boiling over. You really stirred my interest.

[dthmstr254]

since i am getting so many posts about how the form works, ill fill out a form tonight, after my migraine goes away, hopefully it will describe how i believe well enough that you will understand it, as for now i am just going to watch the debates and throw my two cents in until i get my room opened. then i will take a nap.

[G. Adams]

Pursuit of Eudaimonia. Kick ass, take names.

[dthmstr254]

I. Metaphysics-“What is ultimately real?”
generally--it is the study of the world beyond the physical world.
specifically--it is the study of the nature of reality, ultimate being, or non-material being
2 Corinthians 4:18 (King James Version)
18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
Luke 12:15 (King James Version)
15 And he said unto them, Take heed, and beware of covetousness: for a man's life consisteth not in the abundance of the things which he possesseth.
Matthew 6:19-21 (King James Version)
19Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

20But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

21For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
1 Peter 1:18-19 (King James Version)
18Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;

19But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

A. Ontology- the study of existence or being. in essence, the study of the tiny infinitive "to be". this term is used interchangeably with metaphysics by many writers. ultimate reality with relation to people is ontology, but ultimate reality in relation to the remainder of creation is metaphysics. ontology is metaphysics, but metaphysics is not necessarily ontology. I believe God is ultimate reality. "I Am"
Exodus 3:13-14 (King James Version)
13And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?

14And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
John 8:58 (King James Version)
58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

B. Cosmology- what is ultimately real in the universe? Psalm 19:1
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

C. Teleology- what is the purpose of our existence?
1 Corinthians 10:31 (King James Version)
31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
II. Epistemology—“What is true?”—“How do we know truth?”
Epistemology is concerned with the nature, process, and limits of human knowledge
A. The way in which we learn something affects how much trust we place in its value, true or false?
true
B. Five ways of knowing, which one do you choose mostly?
i use all three of the top ones and 5. a. and c.
1. Scientific Method—senses, empiricism
2. Deductive reasoning—rational logic
3. Experience—feeling, intuition
4. Common sense—“everybody knows it”
5. Revelation/authority: Divine authority and human authority experts—three kinds of revelation:
a. Written
b. Personal
c. General
III. Axiology—“What is of value?"
Philippians 4:8-9 (King James Version)
8Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

9Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.
there are two branches of axiology:
ethics--our values in relation to the conduct of people--morals
aesthetics--our values in relation to the quality of our life--beauty
(lovely, beautiful, enjoyable, ugly, appreciative)


A. Ethics—the question of conduct
Morals are concerned--
--with the direction and guidance of human conduct
--with the decisions and action of the will in human conduct

Questions and concerns of ethics
--morals vs mores
--thoughts vs deeds
Matthew 5:28 (King James Version)
28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Matthew 15:19 (King James Version)
19For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
Mark 3:21 (King James Version)
21And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself.

Proverbs 23:7 (King James Version)
7For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.
--temptation vs sin
--absolute vs relative
--means vs ends

B. Aesthetics—the question of enjoyment and taste
aesthetic concerns:
--artificial vs authentic
--arts for arts sake
--art for our sake