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Old Sep 17, 2005, 06:04 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Indian Teen Tennis Player Threatened By 'Fatwa'

Jamaat threatens Sania, security beefed up

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Posted online: Friday, September 16, 2005 at 1532 hours IST
Updated: Friday, September 16, 2005 at 1605 hours IST

Sania Mirza Kolkata, September 16: Indian tennis sensation Sania Mirza will receive extra security after an Islamic group opposed to her on-court dress threatened to stop her from playing in next week's WTA event, police said on Friday.


Muslim clergymen have denounced the 18-year-old player for wearing skimpy skirts and colourful sleeveless tops on court, which they say are un-Islamic.

The teenager has emerged as one of India's most visible sporting icons following a sensational year in which she has climbed to 34 in the WTA world rankings.

http://www.expressindia.com/fullstor...rity~beefed~up

Can you believe this folks? :rolleyes:
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Old Sep 20, 2005, 12:39 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Jamaat threatens Sania, security beefed up

Reuters
Posted online: Friday, September 16, 2005 at 1532 hours IST
Updated: Friday, September 16, 2005 at 1605 hours IST

Sania Mirza Kolkata, September 16: Indian tennis sensation Sania Mirza will receive extra security after an Islamic group opposed to her on-court dress threatened to stop her from playing in next week's WTA event, police said on Friday.


Muslim clergymen have denounced the 18-year-old player for wearing skimpy skirts and colourful sleeveless tops on court, which they say are un-Islamic.

The teenager has emerged as one of India's most visible sporting icons following a sensational year in which she has climbed to 34 in the WTA world rankings.

http://www.expressindia.com/fullstor...rity~beefed~up

Can you believe this folks? :rolleyes:

I can. The Muslims go crazy over stuff like this. Why don't they just denounce her and leave the girl alone? Actually as I understand it, the conservative attire the Muslim women wear is to prevent men from looking at them as sex objects.


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Old Sep 20, 2005, 01:43 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Well, if men look at them as sex objects, it's the men who are at fault.
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Old Sep 20, 2005, 08:45 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Well, if men look at them as sex objects, it's the men who are at fault.
Yeah, but its the men who are in control, so what they say goes. They do it so their wives will be protected from the prying eyes of other males. It's sort of a terrorial thing, the way I look at it.


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Old Sep 20, 2005, 08:50 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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If they had any balls, they'll take it up with whoever oogles their wives instead of punishing the women for failing to cover up their bodies from head to toe.
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Old Sep 20, 2005, 09:02 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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If they had any balls, they'll take it up with whoever oogles their wives instead of punishing the women for failing to cover up their bodies from head to toe.
I understand what you are saying, but to them it makes sense. Plus how do you punish someone for looking at your wife in a sexual manner? I guess it's much easier to make the wife cover up then it is to punish someone else for looking at her.


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Old Sep 20, 2005, 09:06 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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And this practice is taken to what lengths? A 'fatwa' is declared on a teenager for not covering up whilst playing tennis!!
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Old Sep 20, 2005, 09:14 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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And this practice is taken to what lengths? A 'fatwa' is declared on a teenager for not covering up whilst playing tennis!!
Well she doens't have to obey it. At least that's what I read on Wikipedia. That said the Muslims are very serious about this, the men and women. To them it doesn't matter what she is doing so long as she covers up.


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Old Sep 20, 2005, 05:16 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Well, if men look at them as sex objects, it's the men who are at fault.
Yeah, but the idea that men should wear blindfolds in public has just somehow never caught on. I suspect that it's the lack of fashion in available blindfolds. Now, if only someone would offer a line of fashion blindfolds, I'm sure that the clerics that issued the fatwa will be willing to wear them and prescribe them to all men in their flock. And why shouldn't they? After all, they already allow religious ideology to blind them to so much of the world -- and I don't limit that comment to Muslim clerics.

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Yeah, but its the men who are in control, so what they say goes. They do it so their wives will be protected from the prying eyes of other males. It's sort of a terrorial thing, the way I look at it.
But what makes the tennis star part of their territory? Are her relatives among those denouncing her? I suspect that it's because she is Muslim herself, although I don't know that she is. It seems that their concept of their own territory is rather broad -- perhaps taking in the entire subcontinent.

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If they had any balls, they'll take it up with whoever oogles their wives instead of punishing the women for failing to cover up their bodies from head to toe.
Well, tennis players have fuzzy balls, including women tennis players. Maybe the clerics lack fuzzy balls, so instead they make a big racket.

For that matter, why not demand that the the entire tennis court be covered up, from end to end? That would effectively end any oggling.
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Old Dec 13, 2005, 08:35 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Yeah, but its the men who are in control, so what they say goes. They do it so their wives will be protected from the prying eyes of other males. It's sort of a terrorial thing, the way I look at it.
Problem with Man - Muslim or Hindu or Christian.
To apease the male - the western culture has turned women as a commodity . Woman fashion means shwoing the whole body . They have wear high heels , skimpy skirts .....low cut , topless.........

To appease the Muslim male - woman has to wear burkhas so that she can not be seen by other males !! Only the owner can see, enjoy the lady!!!

This is not a problem with religion but with the way the male govern the world !!!
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Old Dec 13, 2005, 11:24 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Problem with Man - Muslim or Hindu or Christian.
To apease the male - the western culture has turned women as a commodity . Woman fashion means shwoing the whole body . They have wear high heels , skimpy skirts .....low cut , topless.........

To appease the Muslim male - woman has to wear burkhas so that she can not be seen by other males !! Only the owner can see, enjoy the lady!!!

This is not a problem with religion but with the way the male govern the world !!!

Muslim men can also beat their wives and have 11 of them like Mohammed did. His favorite he married at 6. I'll give you the exact place where it is stated in their rule book when I get it back.
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Old Dec 13, 2005, 11:38 am   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Muslim men can also beat their wives and have 11 of them like Mohammed did. His favorite he married at 6. I'll give you the exact place where it is stated in their rule book when I get it back.
i think you´ll find it´s a maximum of four wives, some people in utah have four wives too
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Old Dec 14, 2005, 08:45 am   #13 (permalink) (top)
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i think you´ll find it´s a maximum of four wives, some people in utah have four wives too

Very true Jose, but they don't call themselves a prophet and lead millions into a fake theology do they? So you are willing to admite the weakness of Mohammed, right?
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Old Dec 14, 2005, 08:51 am   #14 (permalink) (top)
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What do they expect her to do? Play in a freaking burka? She'd trip all over the place. Then the clergy people would be bitching at her for losing and 'destroying muslim pride in athletics' or some crap like that. Its re-goddamn-diculous.


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Old Dec 14, 2005, 09:19 am   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Sad that so many Muslims live in the Dark Ages and think it's OK.
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Old Dec 17, 2005, 02:50 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Very true Jose, but they don't call themselves a prophet and lead millions into a fake theology do they? So you are willing to admite the weakness of Mohammed, right?
what is¨admite¨?
¨I'll give you the exact place where it is stated in their rule book when I get it back.¨
go on then

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Old Dec 17, 2005, 08:21 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Very true Jose, but they don't call themselves a prophet and lead millions into a fake theology do they? So you are willing to admite the weakness of Mohammed, right?
What do you mean by a "fake theology", Zealot?

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Problem with Man - Muslim or Hindu or Christian. To apease the male - the western culture has turned women as a commodity . Woman fashion means shwoing the whole body . They have wear high heels , skimpy skirts .....low cut , topless......... To appease the Muslim male - woman has to wear burkhas so that she can not be seen by other males !! Only the owner can see, enjoy the lady!!! This is not a problem with religion but with the way the male govern the world !!!
The difference is women over here have a choice. They choose to wear high heels, skimpy skirts, etc. Women over in the Middle East have no choice, but to cover up. Plus the burka was devised to keep women from being viewed as sexual objects by men.

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Sad that so many Muslims live in the Dark Ages and think it's OK.
To them we live like heathens. It all depends on your perspective. Those women over there have lived like that for generations, they donot know any different.


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