If nothing exists? then tell me the location of it?

[Jungliestner]

Nothing exists but there is not such a thing we called it nothing, it is just a word we use it to describe the absence of something.
Darkness exisits also but there is not such a thing we called it darkness, it is just a word we use it to describe the absence ot lighten.
If you see nothing in darkness, could be the Darkness the location of nothing?!
Could be anyword you called it nothing a location of it?!

[tman_ndsu08]

We make words up to describe the negation of other words instead of saying "not + the word".

IE, instead of saying that it's "not light out", we say it's "dark out".

It's just easier.

[LemonButt]

In any universe there are two things: A and ¬A (not A). You have terrorists and not terrorists. You have Republicans and not Republicans. You have something and you have not something, which is simplified as nothing.

This is one of the reasons I hate it when people use terms such as "nonviolence" It's the equivilant of saying the white house is "non-blue"

Also, you can say light is the absence of darkness. Light bulbs don't emit light, but rather darkness absorbers. I can prove this by putting my hand below a light bulb. The darkness on the top of my hand is absorbed by the lightbulb, but the bottom of my hand is in the way of the light bulb from absorbing the darkness below my hand. Amazing what you can come up with when you look at things differently, eh?

[Starboy]

That is easy. Nothing exists nowhere.

Starboy

[Ken Carman]

Quote by: Jungliestner Nothing exists but there is not such a thing we called it nothing, it is just a word we use it to describe the absence of something. Darkness exisits also but there is not such a thing we called it darkness, it is just a word we use it to describe the absence ot lighten. If you see nothing in darkness, could be the Darkness the location of nothing?! Could be anyword you called it nothing a location of it?!

This is both a philosophical problem I have considered many times and an observation on communication.

I think there is no pure dark, no pure light. In the darkest part of space there is probably the smallest lumen to detect, if we could do so, and in the middle of the brightest sun there may be chance for more light. It's kind of a tease because I feel it probably will remain an open question since we can never know everything there is to know.

Words are a mere collection of sounds we assign meaning and grammatical structure to. Meaning is fluid, otherwise there would never be a need for new, updated, dictionary. By the time a dictionary comes out it's probably somewhat dated. Transformational Grammer says we are all born with the ability to structure sentences, however it is a theory and I can imagine there are cultures and creatures who might structure what they would consider a "sentence" unlike anything postulated by TG.

[RickSp]

Based on my experience in Cleveland, I would suggest that nothing is centered roughly around nowhere, which would be somewhere in Ohio on a Saturday night around 9PM. Less metaphysics and more of a blues tune.

[Logjam]

What IS very likely has nothing to do what what we think it is. Existance is very complex, and probably inconceivable to mere mortals. I suggest that you do not let this fact bother you. Enjoy your life as you can, and when it's over experience what's there. Whether or not we understand what's going to happen after we die has no effect upon the fact that we will experience it.

Is there a "final judgement"? I don't know. It can go either way. If you believe that there is, then live your life accordingly. If you don't believe in it, then live your life as you see fit anyway.

In other words what will happen will happen and we have nothing to do with it. So kick back and have another martini.

[SoccerfreakAB2]

Quote by: Starboy That is easy. Nothing exists nowhere. Starboy

What about the outer reaches of space, where even the spacious vacuum doesn't exist?
Just a curious thought when I read what you said.

[Jack]

Taoism addresses such things as being and nothingness:
The most common graphic representation of Taoist theology is the circular Yin Yang figure. It represents the balance of opposites in the universe. When they are equally present, all is calm. When one is outweighed by the other, there is confusion and disarray.

[Starboy]

Quote by: SoccerfreakAB2 What about the outer reaches of space, where even the spacious vacuum doesn't exist? Just a curious thought when I read what you said.

What spacious vaccum? Current research indicates that the so called empty intergallactic space contains more matter than the galaxies. That the formation, size and frequency of galaxies is much better explained if one takes this so-called empty space into account. And then of course it is not as if it is not full of photons, neutrinos and zero energy not to mention the so called dark matter and dark energy.

Starboy

[Prometheus]

The concept of nothing is not something. It is mearly an artifact of our language. The main weaness we have in this discussion is that our minds are not equipped to conceive of nothing.

The other problem is defining what is something. Some philosophors say that all existance thought. If "something" must be physical, then there is nothing. But if thought is all that exists, then the word "something" only makes sence if thoughts qualify as something.

Either way it's a semantics game that relies too much on definitional concepts.

[SoccerfreakAB2]

Quote by: Starboy What spacious vaccum? Current research indicates that the so called empty intergallactic space contains more matter than the galaxies. That the formation, size and frequency of galaxies is much better explained if one takes this so-called empty space into account. And then of course it is not as if it is not full of photons, neutrinos and zero energy not to mention the so called dark matter and dark energy. Starboy

Still, is our universe is in fact growing, then what is outside of it? Nothing?

[Starboy]

Quote by: SoccerfreakAB2 Still, is our universe is in fact growing, then what is outside of it? Nothing?

I have no idea. All I know is that current explanations place that question in the nonsense category. Kinda like asking if carrots taste blue. When it comes to the "outside" of the universe, there is no there, there.

Starboy

[Ken Carman]

Quote by: RickSp Based on my experience in Cleveland, I would suggest that nothing is centered roughly around nowhere, which would be somewhere in Ohio on a Saturday night around 9PM. Less metaphysics and more of a blues tune.

Ha! I go through north east Ohio every year on business. To show the opposite point of view there's a place just west of Warren on the 82 cut around called "The Center of the World," or something like that. I think they may have taken that sign down since I don't remember seeing it this year. Of course anyone who thinks that place is the center of anything, practically a ghost town, and not a pleasant one, is delusional at best.

Perhaps we have a candidate for "nowhere?"

[northtexan]

Quote by: Jungliestner Nothing exists but there is not such a thing we called it nothing, it is just a word we use it to describe the absence of something. Darkness exisits also but there is not such a thing we called it darkness, it is just a word we use it to describe the absence ot lighten. If you see nothing in darkness, could be the Darkness the location of nothing?! Could be anyword you called it nothing a location of it?!

Where does nothing exist? That's easy: nowhere.

I'm reading a book called 'The Speed of Dark' wherein a character concludes that the speed of dark must be greater than the speed of light, because dark is always already there before light gets anywhere. Actually, what we call 'dark' is not the absence of light, just lesser intensity of it, because the entire universe is pervaded by light. But darkness cannot be the only location of nothing, because we can also see nothing in the light, and in fact when there is insufficient light so that we can see nothing, there is still light, just insufficient.

Now, is the speed of ignorance faster than the speed of knowledge?

[northtexan]

Quote by: Prometheus The concept of nothing is not something. It is mearly an artifact of our language. The main weaness we have in this discussion is that our minds are not equipped to conceive of nothing. The other problem is defining what is something. Some philosophors say that all existance thought. If "something" must be physical, then there is nothing. But if thought is all that exists, then the word "something" only makes sence if thoughts qualify as something. Either way it's a semantics game that relies too much on definitional concepts.

Well, that's something to think on. Or is it nothing?

Quote by: SoccerfreakAB2 Still, is our universe is in fact growing, then what is outside of it? Nothing?

No, since the universe is still growing, nothing hasn't reached there yet.

What is the speed of nothing, anyway?

Quote by: Starboy I have no idea. All I know is that current explanations place that question in the nonsense category. Kinda like asking if carrots taste blue. When it comes to the "outside" of the universe, there is no there, there. Starboy

No, carrots don't taste blue. But consider: neither do they taste orange.