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Old May 21, 2005, 05:42 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Think fast 99

subcon to recon ( our concious reality )

it takes a long time

like chinese wispers by the time that brilliant though gets used

loses all meaning in the process

some times i feel i loose a lot more in translation that the average. But what if there was a way to sink the sub concious closer to the outer concious. How close could you get before you crush the line between human and godlike? surely if i could realise at the speed of thoughts conception, id be createing my own world real to me (and others?)

Through meditation and other mental stimulation im sure a degree of this is possible. Any one whos experenced certain drugs will claim a closer mental realm to that they encounter in dreams. Inner conciousness moves quicker at the expense of outer.

How can we evolve the concious realms in unison within our own life times?
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Old May 21, 2005, 07:48 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Old May 21, 2005, 08:42 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Well, problem solved then .__.

No disrespect to Buddism but its becoming the new prozac in the west. Trust wetern culture to reinterpret religions into something conveniant.

Just wait, there already working on Buddist in a pill

I see where your coming from though, im sure theres a whole lot of faiths and disiplines that my ideas have been practiced in, but i tent to find my own solution within. The closest name i could tag my self with is agnostic, but i prefer Kane. ^_^
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Old May 21, 2005, 10:27 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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surely if i could realise at the speed of thoughts conception, id be createing my own world real to me (and others?)
And others, only in as much as your spontaneous realization corresponds to the truth of the matter.
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Pursue and articulate the truth as you see it.
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No disrespect to Buddism but its becoming the new prozac in the west. Trust wetern culture to reinterpret religions into something conveniant.
I agree with this sentiment.
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Old May 22, 2005, 06:32 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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it takes a long time
It's not as long as some may Perceive.
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Old May 22, 2005, 07:47 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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It's not as long as some may Perceive.
Thats the ticket, perception every time. In my world i often feel hindered. I forget most daily goals i set for my self, just go with the flow in a way. Its a thing about me that really shits me now becasue organisation is critical with work and study. That said i often find my own ways, i just do it backwards :S

Im still growing though, the experience thus far has kept my interest.


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Old May 22, 2005, 11:33 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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You already died.

I do this through real-time application of lucidity.
I envision first, and it is not hard to do, that this is actually a dream.
Then, I try to wake up.

Your sub and con theory makes sense.
I call them the dreamer and the dreamed.
The triangulation takes 3 points of reference; third being the "ladder" or "rope" which is the dream itself.
When the dreamer meets the dreamed upon this ladder, they recognize each other as reflections, or essentially the same yet separate.
Once merged, these gemini are known only as the dream.
Once awakened, neither the dreamer nor the dreamed exist. Nay even the dream itself, now lucid, begins to change it's essence.
Check out Buddhism, Hinduism, anything ya' want. In the end, you will find what you seek inside the one, true temple: You.

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"it takes a long time"

"It's not as long as some may Perceive."

YES! Perception. The perceiver and the perceived meet upon a ladder and Voila!! perception is borne upon itself.. the ladder, once known as an obvious exit, a way out, a way in is now nameless.
In this way, when the timer meets the timed, time itself will end.
Sub meets con? The end of consciousness...
(-1 + 1 = 0 to the aware. Popular myth: -1 = +1)

Capiche? me neither *wink!~*
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Old May 27, 2005, 09:42 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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religions are like a string of pearls, all with a thread of truth running through them

is a quote I heard recently, that might help too.


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Old May 28, 2005, 09:31 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Ive been a bit inactive here so here a late reply;

Dadoo, your approach on this thinking i find very interesting and compells me to keep an eye on this site. We've arrived at simililar philosiphy from differant perspectives which i always enjoy learning about because it reassures one self in a way making a more solid argument. Its a true logic you bring up, two frequencies when met canceling each other out. I love sine waves, they can represent so much, like possitive/negetive effect balance.

Ive had dreams before where ive battled a physical copy of myself, except they are of my sub dimension and have the power of my dream world. Those dreams were always cool, come to think i like all my dreams.


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Old May 29, 2005, 02:49 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Yes, Eggosphere,
We are all here in many minor pieces:
As a populational almalgamation the Alien might call, "The Human".
As individual puzzles, self-made riddles.
We are each a Pandora's Box.

Only that upon which we agree matters.
The rest, obviously unnecessary, fodder for argument.
The point of all debate is to agree.
The illusion is that two states hover to left and to the right.
(for me.)

I am glad there are interesting POV's on this site.
I won't be here long. I will state my observation over and over until the same ideal has been presented with 10,000 masks.
Then, to some people a hint of a larger message, very hard to say might glint through the bogged-down letters and weighted words.
Then, "Namaste", we will say.
Then, Silence, when we believe.

The Proto and the Archaic are the same. In every way, a cycle.
Except where do we fit "Uber?" Is it always the current copy?
If so, how is it that the Uber is the Original?

... so, what will be left to speak of once we realize the essence of the knowledge we seek?
Oh, what a strange and silent world we will have when logic pollutes this land of magical illusions.

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Old Jun 1, 2005, 12:00 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Dadoo, im glad you exist the way you do. I wish you well on your vast journy.


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