what use do i have for a god?

[Starboy]

Quote by: Prometheus James, it is unfair to take a bad example (james) and use it to charictarize the rest of a faith. Am I not a counterexample of what you always rant about?

You made the claim. It happens more than you think. It is happening on a vast scale. You are just too blind to see it even when it is right under your nose.

Would it be fair for me to assume that all atheists are assholes becuse of you? Of course not.

This is not about atheists. Maybe all atheists are assholes; this doesn't mean that all Christians are not the shit below us. Deflecting the argument onto atheists is a dishonest tactic. Keep it up. You are demonstrating my points very well.

Starboy

[Prometheus]

Starboy This is not about atheists. Maybe all atheists are assholes; this doesn't mean that all Christians are not the shit below us. Deflecting the argument onto atheists is a dishonest tactic. Keep it up. You are demonstrating my points very well.

I brought that up to make a point about steryotyping, It was not dishonest.

[Prometheus]

Starby:

Even James isn't trying to force you to believe in god. He has condemned you to hell, but he hasn't done anything forcefull.

It's impossible to force a belief over an internet forum.

And you are no less adement then any christian in your zelous proselyting for your atheist beliefs.

You can't mention god around here without you jumping in.

[Starboy]

Quote by: Prometheus I am not responsible for what James does, nor do his beliefs charactarize mine. Why would you rub that in my face? Would you like me rubbing the inconsistancies of a gnostic atheist in your face? No, becuase you are not one.

You made the claim about Christians, when all you can really do is speak for yourself. Perhaps you should stop living in you little supernatural dream world and take a very close look at what Christians are up to and have been doing for a very, very, very long time.

Starboy

[Starboy]

Quote by: Prometheus I brought that up to make a point about steryotyping, It was not dishonest.

And I am examining your claim which was also a stereotype. However when is a sterotype not a stereotype?

Starboy

[Prometheus]

I'm tired of debating this with you. You are on a crusade against religion, and I am tired of it. You just keep reiterating the same points, and getting hostile every time the "G" word is mentioned.

[James]

Still here...

[Starboy]

Quote by: Prometheus Starby: Even James isn't trying to force you to believe in god. He has condemned you to hell, but he hasn't done anything forcefull. It's impossible to force a belief over an internet forum. And you are no less adement then any christian in your zelous proselyting for your atheist beliefs. You can't mention god around here without you jumping in.

Sorry, only a matter of degree not of kind. James is making representations that cannot be confirmed for the explicit purpose of converting you. It matters not that he uses lies instead of a gun.

Starboy

[Starboy]

Quote by: Prometheus I'm tired of debating this with you. You are on a crusade against religion, and I am tired of it. You just keep reiterating the same points, and getting hostile every time the "G" word is mentioned.

Run away! Run away!

Starboy

[FIFI]

You are being very hostile Starboy, and Prometheus has a point: your steryotyping and in fact, your aggression and hostility are what makes many steryotype atheists as assholes. I am not a jerk toward those with beliefes, and you shouldn't be either. James is an example of those who confuse everyday life with religion, for many, they can strike the balance between the two. Both you and James cannot.

[FIFI]

Quote by: Starboy Run away! Run away! Starboy

We're all running away because you cannot seem to handle any debate that might have God in it without reverting to name-calling and insulting. If I wanted that, I'd try to discuss these issues with my high school friends. :rolleyes:

[Starboy]

Quote by: FIFI You are being very hostile Starboy, and Prometheus has a point: your steryotyping and in fact, your aggression and hostility are what makes many steryotype atheists as assholes. I am not a jerk toward those with beliefes, and you shouldn't be either. James is an example of those who confuse everyday life with religion, for many, they can strike the balance between the two. Both you and James cannot.

FIFI, you know next to nothing about me. My claims were about statements made by Prometheus regarding Christians. He has a conecpt of Christianity that is much better than Christians deserve. The fact that people like James exist and their numbers are swelling every day does not dimish my points in any way. I am sure it bothered the Nazis that were not cruel and unjust to be lumped in with the Nazis that were but if that bothers them then they should stop calling themselves Nazis.

Starboy

[Starboy]

Quote by: FIFI We're all running away because you cannot seem to handle any debate that might have God in it without reverting to name-calling and insulting. If I wanted that, I'd try to discuss these issues with my high school friends. :rolleyes:

Ask Sean. He will tell you that I have not been insulting people in this thread. I have been conducting a brutally honest discussion. Only people capable of such honesty can handle it. Maybe when you are older.

Starboy

[Cephus]

Quote by: James You do need God. Like everyone, you have sinned. You haven't lived a perfect life, and you should know that. The only way to Heaven is to be perfect, and we can't do it alone. We need Jesus. He lived a perfect life on earth and was the sacrifice for our sins when He died on the cross. So all you must do is ask Him to forgive you; He's already paid the price.

But there's no such thing as sin so I don't need a farsical father figure to forgive me for things I haven't done wrong to begin with and let me into a fantasy world called Heaven.

Now, unless you can actually PROVE any of this is real, the question again was: What use do I have for a god?