Mind of my Mind

[Colonel Bill]

Each one was created differently. Each one goes its way, some come to achievements, some die and don't see it. It is not known how one should be created so that it would be the One. The end of the journeys can't be predicted. You are parts of a giant computer which is searching how to create the One.

[rcne]

And the answer is 42. But what is the question?

[jeffl]

The question, as stated, is how to become one mind. And the answer is to love God the Father with all of your heart and mind and soul, and to love your neighbor as you love yourself. That will compell the necessary psychic evolution; pehaps?.

[Starboy]

Quote by: jeffl The question, as stated, is how to become one mind. And the answer is to love God the Father with all of your heart and mind and soul, and to love your neighbor as you love yourself.

If that is the answer then it doesn't work. It never worked. There is no way for it to work because there doesn't appear to be a soul or a god.

That will compell the necessary psychic evolution; pehaps?.

The closest thing to such an evolution is an ant colony and what makes it work is not psychic.

Starboy

[Rave7pt0]

Don't mind Starboy, he's spiritually deficient right now 8)

We become one mind by realizing that we already are all one mind.

[Starboy]

Quote by: Rave7pt0 Don't mind Starboy, he's spiritual deficient right now 8)

What is spiritual?

We become one mind by realizing that we already are all one mind.

Errrr, except obviously for me.

Starboy

[jeffl]

Quote by: Starboy If that is the answer then it doesn't work. It never worked. There is no way for it to work because there doesn't appear to be a soul or a god.

Ofcourse it worked; and it scared the shit out of the romans. Just look and see.

The closest thing to such an evolution is an ant colony and what makes it work is not psychic. Starboy

Your bias makes reasonable discussion useless.

[Starboy]

Quote by: jeffl Ofcourse it worked; and it scared the shit out of the romans. Just look and see.

It works great if your goal is to scare the shit out of people but if it is to, as you say, "become one mind" then it is an abject failure unless of course your goal is to create a world of frightened people.

Your bias makes reasonable discussion useless.

Nahhhh, not at all. Your position is bankrupt.

Starboy

[jeffl]

Quote by: Rave7pt0 We become one mind by realizing that we already are all one mind.

I think it's the asynchronous, stochastic, and often ostensibly contrary efforts of individual humans that i find often diverts my attention from such a global truth. Most of the contrary efforts i can understand as grounded in misapplication, an ignorance of context maybe; but i think some aspects of individuality don't want 'one mind.' For me, the realization of one mind compells a clear course of action; an examination and discussion of its history and ground, in a committed, open, and honest fashion.

[Dadoo]

Quote:

" We become one mind by realizing that we already are all one mind."

"- Errrr, except obviously for me."
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Starboy, are you the only anomaly? If so, that too points at singularity, or single-pointed experience.(even if only your own.) If not, each then, is singular and whole. Separated from the notion of total absolute unity, the palpable result is still singularity or single-pointed reference(s). The plurality of which, ultimately is non-sequitor.
What is being argued? Concepts or semantics?

Quote by Jeffl:

"i can understand as grounded in misapplication, an ignorance of context maybe; but i think some aspects of individuality don't want 'one mind.' For me, the realization of one mind compells a clear course of action;"

What is to be done, were you correct? Can ignorance skew reality?
If, as you say, we are to discover or learn that there is only one mind then, then how many minds are you currently viewing/ experiencing this world through? My view is unified already. I cannot see nor taste this place through another's perspective. (yet?)

All perspectives thus unified will result in a singular perspective again. What is the meaning of this! How can this seem like a logical or even worthy aspiration? It seems to be more like a repetitive cycle assuming a new name with each revolution!

Your suggestions imply, Jeffl, to me, that the realization of unity and the presence of universal unity are separateable concepts. What is there to seperate?

As Starboy said, "What is spiritual?" (kudos!)
There is no difference between spirituality and science as they cannot be compared. They are METHODS of exploring the SAME phenomema. = everything is scientific. Everything is also spiritual. Semantically, the jargon and terms differ yet the GOAL is the same. Insight, contrast, understanding. Cessation of suffering.

In the end though, peeps, what is to be explained?
In explaining the experience, a lifetime becomes prone to being "explanation after explanation, " never experiencing yet always quantifying, turning, grasping, brooding.
Don't think too much. Be glad you already own the single perspective you seek.

Is this life so terrible? What if this is as good as it gets? It really is pretty incredible, already. The painting is only finished when the artist sets down the brush...
Dadoo

[Starboy]

Quote by: Dadoo Quote: " We become one mind by realizing that we already are all one mind." "- Errrr, except obviously for me." ************************************************************************************************** Starboy, are you the only anomaly? If so, that too points at singularity, or single-pointed experience.(even if only your own.) If not, each then, is singular and whole. Separated from the notion of total absolute unity, the palpable result is still singularity or single-pointed reference(s). The plurality of which, ultimately is non-sequitor. What is being argued? Concepts or semantics?

My Dadoo you are fond of gibberish. I made an observation, you responded with what might pass as thought but is a semantic non-sequitur if I have ever seen one. Dadoo, your philosophy has a name. It is called idealism. Perhaps you should learn more about what you espouse. Then maybe your posts would not be gibberish.

As Starboy said, "What is spiritual?" (kudos!) There is no difference between spirituality and science as they cannot be compared. They are METHODS of exploring the SAME phenomema. = everything is scientific.

So for you natural and spiritual are the same? Maybe they are but just saying so doesn’t in any way explain why I am in your estimation “spiritually deficit”. Are you saying that I am not natural? I don’t think so. You make an implicit distinction between natural and spiritual but it doesn’t appear to me that you have any idea what it is. That as usual you are full of gibberish.

Everything is also spiritual. Semantically, the jargon and terms differ yet the GOAL is the same. Insight, contrast, understanding. Cessation of suffering.

You seem to be very confused on this topic. First you claim that everything is spiritual and then you appear to want to identify spiritual as some sort of goal. So make up your mind, is it a goal or is it the way everything already is?

In the end though, peeps, what is to be explained? In explaining the experience, a lifetime becomes prone to being "explanation after explanation, " never experiencing yet always quantifying, turning, grasping, brooding. Don't think too much. Be glad you already own the single perspective you seek.

I find it so funny that people who have no real idea what science is seem to feel qualified to criticize it. Have you ever done a scientific experiment in your life? Have you ever tried to explain something scientifically ever? Do you know all that much about science itself or is your knowledge just TV or popular science? I have at least asked you what you mean by spiritual after you claimed that I lacked it. What I get from you is just ignorance parading as knowledge and trying to appear smug in its stupidity.

Is this life so terrible? What if this is as good as it gets? It really is pretty incredible, already. The painting is only finished when the artist sets down the brush... Dadoo

Who ever said that life was terrible? Do you have issues with life? Do you feel that it is not good enough for you? That last sentence is rather odd, are you contemplating suicide?

Starboy

[rez]

Quote by: Colonel Bill Each one was created differently. Each one goes its way, some come to achievements, some die and don't see it. It is not known how one should be created so that it would be the One. The end of the journeys can't be predicted. You are parts of a giant computer which is searching how to create the One.

Jung believed that through evolution, humans have constructed images through our universal experiences at a time when consciousness was just starting to fully develop (his evidence lies in deciphering similar myths and images found in cultures around the world.) Jung states “We can keep from a child all knowledge of earlier myths, but we cannot take from him the need for mythology” (Symbols of Transformation)

This is what the "All One Mind" Theory is about. I would assume Starboy agrees now and Jeffl still disagrees, since his mind is backwards due to dogma.

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Colonel Bill: please respond to me. I am taking out of your text something I thought, but never could of put into words and made sense. This could be completly wrong......

are you saying our genes has some type of consciousness - like a mood, resulting in the design of ME? Maybe this feild of energy is trying to create ME and Matter as like a solid foundation to be able to form some type of connection, almost like how brains work. If you agree, please respond to help me flesh out these ideas....

Its one thing to imagine/believe in a God where I as a human feel special and powerful, but its another thing to imagine/believe how insignificant I really am. Its a form of meditation for me either way and it just makes me feel closer to death - my goal is to lose all conscious thought.

im everything and nothing and I feel like a GOD that believes in evolution.

[jeffl]

Quote by: rez Jeffl still disagrees, since his mind is backwards due to dogma.

This is exactly what i think of Jung.:) His mind was backwards due to the mythological/alchemical dogma he was exposed to.

He had the self at the center, like the sun. That's a good grounded universal perspective, that is reserved for God; it doesn't work in an humanist perspective. In the humanist perspective, the 'self' is the deluded individual simulation of the universe and is better represented by jupiter. In myown perspective; the viable notion of self is the moon, which always regards the earth.

[rez]

Quote by: jeffl This is exactly what i think of Jung.:) His mind was backwards due to the mythological/alchemical dogma he was exposed to. He had the self at the center, like the sun. That's a good grounded universal perspective, that is reserved for God; it doesn't work in an humanist perspective. In the humanist perspective, the 'self' is the deluded individual simulation of the universe and is better represented by jupiter. In myown perspective; the viable notion of self is the moon, which always regards the earth.

And in my darkest moment, fetal and weeping
The moon tells me a secret - my confidant
As full and bright as I am
This light is not my own and
A million light reflections pass over me

Its source is bright and endless
She resuscitates the hopeless
Without her, we are lifeless satellites drifting


The moon reflects the sun as if the light is the moon's light.....the moon is ego (something we learn, not instinctual)

So crucify the ego, before it's far too late
To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical,
And you will come to find that we are all one mind
Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
Just let the light touch you
And let the words spill through
And let them pass right through
Bringing out our hope and reason ...
before we pine away.


There is no god here - just light.....are you admiting you do not believe in GOD jeffl?

[jeffl]

Quote by: rez The moon reflects the sun as if the light is the moon's light.....the moon is ego (something we learn, not instinctual)

To me, jupiter is the ego for the simple reason that it is sort of a simulation solar system. The moon is infact intrinsically linked to us instinctually; you would know this if you talked to women. In the Gnostic scriptures christ says, 'You cannot see the Father, but you can see His light in my face.'

There is no god here - just light.....are you admiting you do not believe in GOD jeffl?

How can i not believe in God, when the Truth is so full as to include even these facts