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Apr 12, 2005, 02:44 am
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| Navy Veteran  Location: Texas Posts: 6,031 | I answered the question, and I didn't need a yes no. Is the person, the Dali Lama himself evil? The answer is given. But since you guys insist on playing gotcha debate instead of trying to see what is being said to you, heres the short and simple since the complex eluded you. The person, the Dali Lama himself, is not evil. He is a person who does good. But his religious beliefs are by the standards in the Bible, wrong, evil, they lead people away from God towards a False God. So by that account, his ACTIONS are evil. But because he probably hasn't had any real chance (or his followers) to turn to Jesus, they are innocent of sin in this. Is that too hard to follow? Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route? |
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Apr 12, 2005, 05:40 am
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  Neo Moderator  Location: England Posts: 5,602 | Quote:
War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before | |
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Apr 12, 2005, 05:49 am
| #123 (permalink) (top) |
| Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,031 | You didn't read what I posted, just made a snap judgement. Try again when you are ready to be serious. Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route? |
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Apr 12, 2005, 07:37 am
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| moderat-e/o-r  Location: boston Posts: 11,184 | sounds to me like he's saying that anybody who isn't a christian is evil. fyi vicchio... this line of yours was total b.s. Quote:
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Apr 12, 2005, 07:40 am
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| Hrm...  Location: MN Posts: 445 | Quote:
The Dalai Lama has spent 70 years on this Earth. He's been to several countries and met the leaders of several religions. And yet, he hasn't had a real chance to turn to Jesus. Given that, I guess I'm a little confused about what a 'real chance' is. Is it that once you've seen the bible X number of times? Is it how many christians you meet? Please define a 'real chance' to turn to Jesus. Thanks LL "Statistics show that of those who contract the habit of eating, very few survive." -- Wallace Irwin | |
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Apr 12, 2005, 07:53 am
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| Neo Moderator Location: England Posts: 5,602 | Quote:
War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before Last edited by Pooeypants; Apr 12, 2005 at 07:57 am. | |
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Apr 12, 2005, 09:36 am
| #128 (permalink) (top) |
| Igneous Magma Posts: 358 | this has probably been asked but Mr V. define evil? from what I've read I can only get "evil just is" Australian Political Discussion Site Aussies: Welcome to the Rudd Regime Yanks: Welcome to Hell Now Purgatory. Others: G'day mate. |
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Apr 12, 2005, 12:04 pm
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| It's simply logical  Location: San Diego Posts: 4,333 | Quote:
So now it's not the person themselves who are evil but the deeds they do. So back to square one; the Dalai Lama is not evil, but what he does - conciously rejecting God and Jesus - is evil. So then, was Hitler evil or simply the things he did? And what of everything in between? Was the Christian church doing evil by leading the brutal Inquisition or the excesses of the Crusades in the name of Christ? Were the Spanish evil in their brutal Christianization of South America? Or American Christians in perpetuating a Native American holocaust during the expansion of the United States? What about deeds alone? Were the great Bubonic plagues evil? The recent tsunami in the Indian Ocean? If we define those as 'acts of God', isn't God therefore quilty of committing evil? And where do you draw the line? Was Martha Stewert's crime evil? Was Pope John Paul II committing evil by refusing to go to a hospital in an effort to extend the sanctity of his life indefinitely? Are you committing evil by fudging on your taxes? That's the problem with dogma. Because you see it printed in black and white, you assume you can define it as black and white: Good vs. Evil. Alas, when you apply it to a world composed entirely of shades of grey, it falls apart. . I don't suffer from insanity... I thoroughly enjoy it Last edited by Sonart; Apr 12, 2005 at 12:09 pm. | |
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Apr 12, 2005, 12:20 pm
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| Hrm... Location: MN Posts: 445 | Quote:
If you're a little bad but DO turn to Jesus what happens? How much bad can you do but still be allowed into heaven assuming you have turned to Jesus? If you haven't turned to Jesus, because you haven't had a real chance, can you do any bad at all and still get into heaven or ... Damn.... Please give us the numbers so we stop wondering. "Statistics show that of those who contract the habit of eating, very few survive." -- Wallace Irwin | |
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Apr 12, 2005, 01:58 pm
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| Navy Veteran Location: Texas Posts: 6,031 | LL, I can only go by my known rality. If you cannot accept that... not my problem. As it's not your problem if I disagree with you now is it? Einstein's "Theory of Relativity" is still being challenged to this day, but by consensus Global Warming is a fact... that's REAL science at work, why didn't Albert just go that route? |
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Apr 12, 2005, 02:20 pm
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| Hrm... Location: MN Posts: 445 | Quote:
What? "Statistics show that of those who contract the habit of eating, very few survive." -- Wallace Irwin | |
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Apr 12, 2005, 02:30 pm
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| BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412 | Summation - evil is what he (who shall remain nameless and who does not exist) says it is. Evil is subjective? No. The world is black and white. It must be written in the Bible. What does it say about Mother Teresa's fraud in the Bible? She's a saint because the "LIBERAL" media says she is, right? Hitler is a demon because the "LIBERAL" media says that he is, right? Quote:
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Apr 12, 2005, 03:38 pm
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| BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412 | I guess this is what the sum total of his BS in psychology can give us. I expected more somehow. Except for the moronic 'STFU' this is all legitimate criticism if you'd backed it up with something at all, even it if it was something not well thought-out. Quote:
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Apr 12, 2005, 03:57 pm
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| 9/11: Inside Job  Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,438 | Stop flame baiting, Gorgo. Maybe you don't understand your own lies. If you wanrt more flaming, I'll see you in the approprate forum, where we won't be punished... "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams |
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Apr 12, 2005, 04:06 pm
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| BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412 | Thanks for filling in the details there. This makes your earlier post more clear. I had assumed you had nothing of substance to say until you took the time to do that. \ Quote:
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Apr 12, 2005, 04:30 pm
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| BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412 | How about, when you start believing in wars between good and evil forces, then the evil forces have won. Quote:
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