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tinybear · Jan 20, 2005, 03:28 pm

An article I read recently said that Jesus would probably be neither, but he would have voted Republican. Interesting isn't it? Perhaps that's the reason why Americans voted for George W. Bush. Read the article and see if you agree:

http://raptureready.com/republican.html

**Pooeypants** · Jan 20, 2005, 03:29 pm

Jesus would vote for neither as he is the ultimate Communist...

Starboy · Jan 20, 2005, 03:31 pm

Maybe a communist or maybe an anarchist.

Starboy

tinybear · Jan 20, 2005, 03:31 pm

You think? Care to elaborate?

Lou Minotti · Jan 20, 2005, 03:35 pm

Jesus would being nothing with -ist at the end of it. He rejected the laws of man. Remember?

tinybear · Jan 20, 2005, 03:36 pm

Doesn't that make him an anarchist like Starboy said?

Starboy · Jan 20, 2005, 03:36 pm

That is very funny. A person that rejects the laws of man is an anarchist.

Starboy

Starboy · Jan 20, 2005, 03:46 pm

Quote:

Quote by: tinybear

You think? Care to elaborate?

There are a couple of books that you might like to read that go into gory detail as to what is attributed to be what Jesus said. When you pull all of it out of the bible it is not more than a few pages. [The Jesus Seminar] Anyway, when you read that stuff, both in and out of context, Jesus comes across as a somewhat crazy guru that really preached all sorts of things that would not be considered standard conservative rhetoric. To me it looks like something a communist or anarchist would say. Most of what is called Christian doctrine came from Paul/Saul, not Jesus. Jesus said it himself. He was here for the Jews. As far as Jesus was concerned the gentiles were no better than dogs.

Starboy

Suburbanite · Jan 20, 2005, 04:03 pm

he dead! what dont u get! he dead!

voyager · Jan 20, 2005, 06:40 pm

Isn't George Bush the second comming of Jesus?

atheist · Jan 20, 2005, 08:21 pm

Jesus would go with the Green Party. I bet my nonexistant fortune on it.

Comrade · Jan 20, 2005, 11:41 pm

Well, which party believes in God? I don't think the Republicans are the "moral relativists"
Pretty easy question to answer, snarky comments aside.

faith · Jan 21, 2005, 08:55 am

i think he would start his own party :)

Vee · Jan 21, 2005, 09:18 am

I'll read it later but the Christian holy beings would be republican in the old testament and democrats in the new testament

Korgmeister · Jan 21, 2005, 09:22 am

Neither.

Too many Democrats are trying to pretend he never existed.

Too many Republicans are trying to bring back the Levitical laws (and abuse thereof) he intended to overturn.

Furthermore, all this talk of Jesus being a communist or an anarchist. Puh-lease. I'm tired of my Messiah being rebranded as some sort of sandal-wearing hippy.

G. Adams · Jan 21, 2005, 10:03 am

If you want to see where Jesus is best shown to be a communist read Acts 4:32-35

"And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul; neither said that any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but that they had all things in common. And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus; and great grace was upon them all. Neitherwas there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, and laid them down at the apostles feet: and distribution was made untio every man according as he had need"

The teachings of Jesus are one long socialist tract. As has been said elsewhere, it's all the crap attatched on on by the Church when compiling the bible that isn't. And do you think they added those books because they felt it was in the spirit of Jesus teachings or because they were trying to side with Rome?

Korgmeister · Jan 21, 2005, 10:30 am

Yawn. As usual trying to ascribe the acts of the Church (men) to Jesus.

Been there, done that. I'll take your Acts 4: 32-35 and give you one Matthew 7:6

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Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Which I take to mean: Don't run yourself ragged giving everything you have to ingrates because they'll never be satisfied and once they've bled you dry they'll tear you apart.

Heavens do I have a great deal of experience with that.

Not to mention Luke 10:7

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And in the same house remain, eating and drinking such things as they give: for the labourer is worthy of his hire. Go not from house to house.

But if we're allowed to quote non-Gospels, then OK, I can dig that.

1Cor 3:8

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Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.

I've no inherent problems with generosity. But I don't see how Jesus would be a proponent of charity made at gunpoint (which is what all forms of socialism ultimately are, in practise).

After all, 2Cor 9:7 says:

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Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

Then there's 2Thes 3:10-12

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Neither did we eat any man’s bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:
Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.
Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.

So if people could stop talking about Jesus as if he was Che freaking Guevara just because he asked people to be generous occasionally, that'd be appreciated. The importance of self-reliance and hard work was stressed just as much in the Bible, but these days people seem to be selectively forgetting that.

Suburbanite · Jan 21, 2005, 02:05 pm

Jesus is a libertarian.

tinybear · Jan 21, 2005, 03:02 pm

Oh yeah? How come he had no homo friends?

Spartacus · Jan 21, 2005, 03:23 pm

We don't know that he didn't. He just didn't think to out them so James Dobson could bitch about them the same way he is pissing about Spongebob.

Besides, given that Jesus was from Nazareth, he isn't eligible to vote in American elections anyway and couldn't be a Democrat or a Republican. Politically, Jesus is undefinable by our standards. He has too many positive qualities (of which any political party has only a few) to be lumped in with any of them. None of our indicators apply.

Jan 20, 2005, 03:28 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 7,337	Would Jesus Be Democrat Or Republican? An article I read recently said that Jesus would probably be neither, but he would have voted Republican. Interesting isn't it? Perhaps that's the reason why Americans voted for George W. Bush. Read the article and see if you agree: http://raptureready.com/republican.html

Jan 20, 2005, 03:29 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Pooeypants Neo Moderator Location: England Posts: 5,609	Jesus would vote for neither as he is the ultimate Communist... War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before

Jan 20, 2005, 08:21 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
atheist life junkie Location: CA Posts: 142	Jesus would go with the Green Party. I bet my nonexistant fortune on it. Sin is salvation. Without "sin" there wouldn't be a concept for "purity" and without a concept of "purity" one wouldn't be able to enter "heaven."

Jan 20, 2005, 11:41 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
Comrade Hot Lava Location: Texas Posts: 1,229	Well, which party believes in God? I don't think the Republicans are the "moral relativists" Pretty easy question to answer, snarky comments aside. Oh, it's really too bad, isn't it? -- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050121/480/watw10701210224 Hahaha, that's funny. Liberals are so silly!

Jan 21, 2005, 08:55 am	#13 (permalink) (top)
faith Molten Ash Location: uk Posts: 128	i think he would start his own party :) Live and love for today! There may be no tomorrow!

Jan 20, 2005, 03:31 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
Starboy BANNED: Repeated insults Posts: 4,828	Maybe a communist or maybe an anarchist. Starboy

Jan 20, 2005, 03:31 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 7,337	You think? Care to elaborate?

Jan 20, 2005, 03:35 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
Lou Minotti BANNED (Multiple usernames after another ban) Posts: 1,337	Jesus would being nothing with -ist at the end of it. He rejected the laws of man. Remember?

Jan 20, 2005, 03:36 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 7,337	Doesn't that make him an anarchist like Starboy said?

Jan 20, 2005, 03:36 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
Starboy BANNED: Repeated insults Posts: 4,828	That is very funny. A person that rejects the laws of man is an anarchist. Starboy

Jan 20, 2005, 04:03 pm	#9 (permalink) (top)
Suburbanite BANNED Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,203	he dead! what dont u get! he dead!

Jan 20, 2005, 06:40 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
voyager Molten Ash Location: Michigan Posts: 103	Isn't George Bush the second comming of Jesus?

Jan 21, 2005, 09:18 am	#14 (permalink) (top)
Vee Igneous Magma Posts: 370	I'll read it later but the Christian holy beings would be republican in the old testament and democrats in the new testament Australian Political Discussion Site Aussies: Welcome to the Rudd Regime Yanks: Welcome to Hell Now Purgatory. Others: G'day mate.

Jan 21, 2005, 09:22 am	#15 (permalink) (top)
Korgmeister Libertarian Fascist Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 27	Neither. Too many Democrats are trying to pretend he never existed. Too many Republicans are trying to bring back the Levitical laws (and abuse thereof) he intended to overturn. Furthermore, all this talk of Jesus being a communist or an anarchist. Puh-lease. I'm tired of my Messiah being rebranded as some sort of sandal-wearing hippy.

Jan 21, 2005, 10:03 am	#16 (permalink) (top)
G. Adams Fyrdman Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 4,174	If you want to see where Jesus is best shown to be a communist read Acts 4:32-35 "And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul; neither said that any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but that they had all things in common. And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus; and great grace was upon them all. Neitherwas there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, and laid them down at the apostles feet: and distribution was made untio every man according as he had need" The teachings of Jesus are one long socialist tract. As has been said elsewhere, it's all the crap attatched on on by the Church when compiling the bible that isn't. And do you think they added those books because they felt it was in the spirit of Jesus teachings or because they were trying to side with Rome? Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill

Jan 21, 2005, 02:05 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
Suburbanite BANNED Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,203	Jesus is a libertarian.

Jan 21, 2005, 03:02 pm	#19 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 7,337	Oh yeah? How come he had no homo friends?

Jan 21, 2005, 03:23 pm	#20 (permalink) (top)
Spartacus voyager Location: where I am free Posts: 111	We don't know that he didn't. He just didn't think to out them so James Dobson could bitch about them the same way he is pissing about Spongebob. Besides, given that Jesus was from Nazareth, he isn't eligible to vote in American elections anyway and couldn't be a Democrat or a Republican. Politically, Jesus is undefinable by our standards. He has too many positive qualities (of which any political party has only a few) to be lumped in with any of them. None of our indicators apply.