Death, the final frontier....

[Motr1n]

I write this topic, because of numerous occasions. It only seemed fit to be in the religious sections, seeing as how religion is the only secure foundation we have on death. So many answers left to our debate. Starting from the aztects to our knowledge of dark matter and m theory. How many of you insist on debating what you truly do not understand? Our death, where we end up... Religion is the only one to step up and debate.
Scientology believes we will be saved
Chrisianity, also we will be saved...
Muslims, we will be saved....
Pleadians we will be saved...
Wicca, we are screwed...
Apparently are either saved or screwed...
One of my random thoughts occured a year ago.... God is not the only of His kind...
And others are here to fuck with Him.
Now, here me out when i say this. God is like the Q.
I am speaking from a star trek point of view. So please hear me out. What if the God that we believe is not the only of His kind... It's like a king of his kingdom.. We are ment to worship Him and no other king. We were created to worship the God of our known 21 deminsons and no other... So what now.
What do we do we do now. I am stuck in between the pleadians and the angelical view of genesis 6. Which is the only absolute truth we have until man takes over after egypt... Where do we go after life???
This is my thought experiment... Please debate!

[Diogenes]

I prefer to accept Socrates take on it...it could be the best thing that ever happened to us...we don't know.

The only thing we do know is that the moment one is conceived he/she is sentenced to death. We are all under a death sentence. Which is why I have no issue with advocating putting major criminals to death.

[Jack]

...seeing as how religion is the only secure foundation we have on death.

I'd contend that religion is the only field in which we can speculate about the possibility of life after death. Biology can tell us quite well what death means to a human body, the processes that occur just prior to and after death. Of course those processes occur in the physical, natural realm. If one wishes to speculate on the non-physical, the soul, life-after-death, then science has nothing which to examine and from which to try and draw conclusions. Speculation about the non-physical and supernatural is the realm of religion.

[Peter]

IWhere do we go after life???

Here's another nonsense question. Where were we before we were alive?

[Motr1n]

Here's another nonsense question. Where were we before we were alive?

That was another thought experiment I had at one point; where was our conscience before we entered this life? Did it even exist? I've read the experiments and beliefs in reincarnation, and how certain young children exhibit attributes and say things that would lead one to believe that he or she were part of a past life. So again, I am throw into a constant loophole of endless thoughts on that matter. That is a very good question, no doubt, but... I coulda used a little more cowbell

[Motr1n]

I'd contend that religion is the only field in which we can speculate about the possibility of life after death. Biology can tell us quite well what death means to a human body, the processes that occur just prior to and after death. Of course those processes occur in the physical, natural realm. If one wishes to speculate on the non-physical, the soul, life-after-death, then science has nothing which to examine and from which to try and draw conclusions. Speculation about the non-physical and supernatural is the realm of religion.

Why can't dimensional theory help us understand a beyond this life theory? It helps explain a life outside our own vision. What if our conscience leaves this 3d dimension and ascends beyond the 4d?

[Angry Citizen]

The only logical afterlife belief revolves around that central question of consciousness. What is consciousness? How does it arise from our brain cells? What makes us 'us'? Why don't we wake up in the morning as Joseph Osbourne from Brooklyn instead of whoever we are now?

Well, I can answer the last question: Because memories are physical. They're encoded in your brain. Your brain, upon death, takes its memories with it. Any true system of reincarnation would be completely oblivious to its past lives.

However, a thought emerges. What if we do wake up in the morning as Joseph Osbourne of Brooklyn? What would it feel like? Well, naturally we wouldn't perceive it. Memories, consciousness, perception -- it's all physical. We would wake up, access our memories and personality, find that we are Joseph Osbourne of Brooklyn, and continue on our merry way.

Now let's extend this further. What if all life is this same consciousness, experiencing existence in trillions upon trillions of different forms at the same time, perceiving only one body at any one given point due to the nature of memory, personality and consciousness? This can only be described as a non-linear-yet-linear chronology. This lone consciousness may be experiencing each life simultaneously, but to the consciousness, it is one life at a time. The implications are staggering. At some point, I will have lived your life, or will live your life. I'll read this and think, "Cocaine is bad, m'kay?" and continue on with my existence, likely with some ridiculous notion of God implanted firmly in my mind with nary a perceived contradiction.

God has nothing to do with an afterlife. God almost certainly does not exist. There is absolutely no evidence for his existence, and there is no reason to even suspect otherwise. Religion is intrinsically incapable of ascertaining the true nature of death and the afterlife. There is only one way to explore the concept -- by using the greatest tool of abstract thought ever invented: logic.

Now that I've given everyone something more meaningful than gods and supernatural nonsense to chew on, I think I'll sleep.

[Deadeye]

I write this topic, because of numerous occasions. It only seemed fit to be in the religious sections, seeing as how religion is the only secure foundation we have on death. So many answers left to our debate. Starting from the aztects to our knowledge of dark matter and m theory. How many of you insist on debating what you truly do not understand? Our death, where we end up... Religion is the only one to step up and debate.
Scientology believes we will be saved
Chrisianity, also we will be saved...
Muslims, we will be saved....
Pleadians we will be saved...
Wicca, we are screwed...
Apparently are either saved or screwed...
One of my random thoughts occured a year ago.... God is not the only of His kind...
And others are here to fuck with Him.
Now, here me out when i say this. God is like the Q.
I am speaking from a star trek point of view. So please hear me out. What if the God that we believe is not the only of His kind... It's like a king of his kingdom.. We are ment to worship Him and no other king. We were created to worship the God of our known 21 deminsons and no other... So what now.
What do we do we do now. I am stuck in between the pleadians and the angelical view of genesis 6. Which is the only absolute truth we have until man takes over after egypt... Where do we go after life???
This is my thought experiment... Please debate!

Relax. Take a pill; you'll feel better in the morning. As for all of the other stuff? Let it go. Marry your high school sweetheart. Get a job in the local Shell Station. Fix cars. Have a few kids. Then you'll have something meaningful to worry about.

[Deadeye]

The only logical afterlife belief revolves around that central question of consciousness. What is consciousness? How does it arise from our brain cells? What makes us 'us'? Why don't we wake up in the morning as Joseph Osbourne from Brooklyn instead of whoever we are now?

Well, I can answer the last question: Because memories are physical. They're encoded in your brain. Your brain, upon death, takes its memories with it. Any true system of reincarnation would be completely oblivious to its past lives.

However, a thought emerges. What if we do wake up in the morning as Joseph Osbourne of Brooklyn? What would it feel like? Well, naturally we wouldn't perceive it. Memories, consciousness, perception -- it's all physical. We would wake up, access our memories and personality, find that we are Joseph Osbourne of Brooklyn, and continue on our merry way.

Now let's extend this further. What if all life is this same consciousness, experiencing existence in trillions upon trillions of different forms at the same time, perceiving only one body at any one given point due to the nature of memory, personality and consciousness? This can only be described as a non-linear-yet-linear chronology. This lone consciousness may be experiencing each life simultaneously, but to the consciousness, it is one life at a time. The implications are staggering. At some point, I will have lived your life, or will live your life. I'll read this and think, "Cocaine is bad, m'kay?" and continue on with my existence, likely with some ridiculous notion of God implanted firmly in my mind with nary a perceived contradiction.

God has nothing to do with an afterlife. God almost certainly does not exist. There is absolutely no evidence for his existence, and there is no reason to even suspect otherwise. Religion is intrinsically incapable of ascertaining the true nature of death and the afterlife. There is only one way to explore the concept -- by using the greatest tool of abstract thought ever invented: logic.

Now that I've given everyone something more meaningful than gods and supernatural nonsense to chew on, I think I'll sleep.

A meaningful after life? Why worry about it? It'll happen. Or it might not, but I can tell you what, there isn't a damn thing that you, or I, can do about it.

Every single swinging richard who has died has experienced the afterlife, or not. So will all of us. Being worried about it is, as the Bard said, "Much ado about nothing".

[Deadeye]

Now folks, we are just itty bitty beings on a huge world that floats in a gigantic universe. We only live for a twinkling of an eye. Our one true responsibility is to appreciate our lives and live them wisely. After all it's a miracle that we were born. Life it a gift, so learn to love it. Don't waste it. A good first step is to become a conservative. Liberals live such shitty lives.

[notthecheatr]

Now folks, we are just itty bitty beings on a huge world that floats in a gigantic universe. We only live for a twinkling of an eye. Our one true responsibility is to appreciate our lives and live them wisely. After all it's a miracle that we were born. Life it a gift, so learn to love it. Don't waste it. A good first step is to become a conservative. Liberals live such shitty lives.

What evidence do you have that political ideology affects the quality of one's life? I've known plenty of very happy liberals and plenty of very happy conservatives.

Besides, it's possible to stop being a liberal and not also become a conservative. Why make a false dichotomy of political affiliations?

[Deadeye]

What evidence do you have that political ideology affects the quality of one's life? I've known plenty of very happy liberals and plenty of very happy conservatives.

Besides, it's possible to stop being a liberal and not also become a conservative. Why make a false dichotomy of political affiliations?

Ah, you are missing a very cogent point. Liberals and conservatives in this country are happy because they are free to be liberals and conservatives. If they were not, as in say a dictitorial government or communist one then folks are not free to be libs or conserv. Without freedom you would observe some very unhappy people, and that unhappiness would be do to politics, political systems and idology.

It is the freedom to be who we want to be that makes us happy and the lact of same that makes us miserable.