where our fate isn't fully controlled ?
where our fate isn't fully controlled ?
What do you mean by "our fate" or "controlled?"
And whether the physical universe is physically real or part of a computer seems rather pointless, either way "free will" is a dicey concept at best but the simplest answer is that it doesn't exist.
I'm not sure if the universe could be a computer simulation or not. At least, it would have to be a vastly (and it's not easy to convey this vastness) more powerful than any computer we have today.
And what would that computer simulate anyway? The exact same universe we see today? So we (humans) exist, built computers and then got hooked up to these computers and so on?.... Makes no sense.
Also, as said, irrelevant, you feel you have control? When you go to work, drink that coke or buy some food? Well, there you go, How do you mean "control"?
And what is fate?
See, fate's strong but if you keep trying and trying it eventually gives up. At some point it runs out of things it can do to you, and if you haven't given up or died then you win.
Doesn't that mean most people are trolls?
No, it means most people on forums are called trolls at one point or another for stating their opinion honestly.
There is no way we can ever tell if this is all a matrix like simulation or "real" and it doesn't matter. Is my physical body somewhere in a vat of nutrient fluid right now? It would be nice to know the truth but it really is irrelevant.
When we are eventually all plugged into a virtual world while our "bodies" sit in a recliner will it be a virtual world nested inside a virtual world? Maybe the virtual universe we seem to be living in is so good, so plugged into us that death is actually the only way to "wake up" into the real world? Then we can drop a few more coins into the simulator and pick another life. I wonder if this is where the feeling of reincarnation comes from. Maybe sometimes we remember a little of our previous simulation. Interesting to speculate about anyhow.
hmmm... ok. Thanks for the responses so far!
What i meant was just that somehow this world is a simulation and therefore it wouldn't take a supercomputer to create your life, my life? OR does it take someone with million times greater intellect than ours to produce even one life?
Life as we know it came into being when hundreds of factors fell into place at the same time. The factors were common elements and climate, geographic location and the atmospheric conditions, which all had to reach a point where the non-living could become living matter. They had to reach that point all at the same time. That is such a rare occurrence that as far as we know it's only happened once on a single planet. As great as the odds are against that happening only once it is not impossible. All life evidently needs to succeed is a 1 in many billions chance. We perceive the evidence of that with our own senses and our tools.
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All that was required for life to begin on this planet was a molecule that replicated and this may have happened millions of times over the last few billion years, how would we know? Such an event would be utterly overwhelmed and assimilated by the surrounding life. Given replication, mutation, variation, and natural selection, we are the inevitable result.
Why this general concept is so difficult to fathom for some people is beyond me.
Say part of the 'program' sets that we think, there are millions of specific things that happen while living everyday.
If i wasn't paying attention and then looked up as i heard my ice melting in my soda, that's what i call a specific thing. This specific thing comes about thousands of times during my lifetime 'when i don't expect it.'
Would this 'program' that is set up, have to have a button pushed over and over again in order to 'tell' me that this event of ice melting has happened before.
OR does our mind do the work? Can u explain how 'our mind' does this? I heard the phrase in the movie but do not understand it all yet.
I'm not too bright.. so thanks for answers in advance.
This is why i thought it required a greater intelligence or technology to create what we see.
Last edited by Thegreatoutdoor; 19th August 2010 at 03:48 PM.
So you want to release all convicted murderes because you where not actually there? Correct?We cant really know for sure how we came about. To speculate without actually being there makes no sense.