Witnesses of Christ?

[Starboy]

Originally posted by Suburbanite, yours calling me a Christian and mine calling you a theist.

About you not being a theist, defending another theist is the sort of thing I would expect a theist to do.

Starboy

[kharmajunkie]

Originally posted by LDS, Technosoul, I refuse. I know a neighbor who did this exact thing. Only it was longer than a year. The results were misery, misery for him, his parents and his family. A smart man learns from his own mistakes, a wise man learns from the mistakes of others. I know what I know. I will not reject it on the whim of any combination of people on this board. If that makes me a sheep, then so be it.

Although I disagree with your religious philosophy LDS, I admire your honesty and consider you to be in the minority of Christians that actually
practice what you preach; it's ashame you aren't more representative of the majority. I was raised in a fanatically rigid, Jehovah's Witnesses community so I may come off anti-religion but I'm really just
very skeptical.

[Suburbanite]

Originally posted by Starboy,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Starboy,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Suburbanite, yours calling me a Christian and mine calling you a theist.

About you not being a theist, defending another theist is the sort of thing I would expect a theist to do.

Starboy[/b][/quote]

recommending theism is not something I would expect an atheist to do. And I did not defend any theists, I attacked an atheist.

[LDS]

"Truth" is a joke.

Believe what you will.

[Technosoul]

Originally posted by LDS, Technosoul, I refuse. I know a neighbor who did this exact thing. Only it was longer than a year. The results were misery, misery for him, his parents and his family. A smart man learns from his own mistakes, a wise man learns from the mistakes of others. I know what I know. I will not reject it on the whim of any combination of people on this board. If that makes me a sheep, then so be it. Starboy, I dont think you understand the magnitude of the personal evidence which supports the book of Mormon. I know it to be true, you could write a thousand books persuading otherwise, but it would not change my feelings on it. Does truth change?

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LDS - Of course you cannot take the challenge for that great adventure because you know you are in fact addicted to the LSD church and it's teachings, you know you could not handle the withdraw pain and suffering that you would need to get past in order to be free in the knowledge of the greater Truth.

It is not simply because you refuse, but because you do not have any will power left to take such a step. Much like a drug addict who will not endur the shakes or the feeling of "climbing the wall" when sperated from his next fix, that feeling of being high.

Admit it, they got you hook, line, and sinker. and that you cannot become whole and compele within your self, indeed the Truth did not set you free, as you now must confess if you could be so honest, for you are not bringing anyone to the truth that can set a person free, but only those things that will make one a slave and addict of the book of Mormon, the same as you yourself are so addicted and enslaved.

I know your mind is still making excuses, and you still are trying to make it sound like you are making the choices, but that is the way of addictions, they control people via such self-deceptions.

And yet, do not think I am being judgemental about your case, may you indeed enjoy your next fix, and may your dealer never run short of supplies, whatever gets you through the night so you can reach another morning cannot be all that bad. But better if you just be it and not become a hooker for it, let others alone that they might have a better chance of finding a non-addictive life of true freedom which is indepentant of external bondage to drugs, books, or the church.

Thanks.

Technosoul.

[Starboy]

Originally posted by Suburbanite, recommending theism is not something I would expect an atheist to do. And I did not defend any theists, I attacked an atheist.

Suburbanite, you need to get an education. Buddhism is a religion but it is not theistic.

Starboy

[Starboy]

Originally posted by LDS, Believe what you will.

Then why do you proselytize?

Starboy

[LDS]

in fact addicted to the LSD church and it's teachings,

In fact? Thats kind of an unscientific way of labeling an assumption. Perhaps instead things of great value are not to be thrown away just because people say they should be?

Then why do you proselytize?

He that is warned should warn his neighbor.

[Starboy]

Originally posted by LDS, He that is warned should warn his neighbor.

That cuts both ways LDS.

Starboy

[Suburbanite]

Originally posted by Starboy,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Starboy,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Suburbanite, recommending theism is not something I would expect an atheist to do. And I did not defend any theists, I attacked an atheist.

Suburbanite, you need to get an education. Buddhism is a religion but it is not theistic.[/b][/quote]

It involves worshipping Gods, them once being human or not has little to do with it.

[Starboy]

Originally posted by Suburbanite, It involves worshipping Gods, them once being human or not has little to do with it.

Like I said, you need to get an education. Even the Dali Lama doesn't think of Buddha as a god.

Starboy

[Technosoul]

They do have images of a buddha figure that has currently encouraged a kind of worhip, but originally the real teachings did not name any kinds of Divine beings or Gods but only the concept that enlightenment can come from out of the blue, or by the management of body energy. It is a philosophy about life which can be found within your self, during meditation.

[Apologist]

I'm affraid their right Sub., Buddhism is the personal enlightenment of the body and spirit. Which is why I could never accept their faith, they believe we can reach Nirvana through ourselves. Nirvana being the final emancipation of the soul from transmigration, and consequently a beatific enfrachisement from the evils of wordly existence, as by annihilation or absorption into the divine. I don't believe any human, unless divinely inspired can acheive this.

[Technosoul]

In the teachings of Buddism one cannot reach enlightenment by self-effort, it comes about through surrendering that attitude of pride that hampers true understanding.

Nirvana is a fairly new addition but one would experience it here and now within the mind, not as mythological goal for some future life after many reincarnations.

Both of those religions however are identical, they yearn for a better world, and they both have faith that such a obtainable, and they both teach hope that through purification of the mind we can reach that everlasting state that is trouble-free. Good will lead to more goodness, until goodness is all absorbing and whatever is uncomfortable will be left behind, even if it means overcoming what others think of as being realistic.

I tell you surely, Christians have no enemy in the concepts of the Buddha. But if you imagine such is the case, you have fallen short of the mark, and have not yet attained the true attutudes of the Christian way. Best of luck next time.

Technosoul.

[Suburbanite]

Originally posted by Starboy,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Starboy,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Suburbanite, It involves worshipping Gods, them once being human or not has little to do with it.

Like I said, you need to get an education. Even the Dali Lama doesn't think of Buddha as a god.

Starboy[/b][/quote]

Not in the Judeo-Christian sense. And tell me I need an education one more time you stupid cock sucker or shut the fuck up and learn how to carry on a dialogue without resorting to blathering repetitive stupidity you old pile of shit.

[Starboy]

Originally posted by Suburbanite, Not in the Judeo-Christian sense. And tell me I need an education one more time you stupid cock sucker or shut the fuck up and learn how to carry on a dialogue without resorting to blathering repetitive stupidity you old pile of shit.

Poor Suburbanite, are you feeling inadequate? Has your education failed you yet again and this is the best you can do?

Starboy

[Suburbanite]

Originally posted by Apologist, I'm affraid their right Sub., Buddhism is the personal enlightenment of the body and spirit. Which is why I could never accept their faith, they believe we can reach Nirvana through ourselves. Nirvana being the final emancipation of the soul from transmigration, and consequently a beatific enfrachisement from the evils of wordly existence, as by annihilation or absorption into the divine. I don't believe any human, unless divinely inspired can acheive this.

Buddhism involves the worshipping of Tanhamkara, Medhamkara, Saranamkara, and nearly a dozen more Buddahs. As for it not being Theistic what about Theravada Buddhism?

[Suburbanite]

Originally posted by Starboy,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='0' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Starboy,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-Suburbanite, Not in the Judeo-Christian sense. And tell me I need an education one more time you stupid cock sucker or shut the fuck up and learn how to carry on a dialogue without resorting to blathering repetitive stupidity you old pile of shit.

Poor Suburbanite, are you feeling inadequate? Has your education failed you yet again and this is the best you can do?

Starboy[/b][/quote]

read on my pathetic mentally impotent elder.

[Starboy]

Originally posted by Suburbanite, Buddhism involves the worshipping of Tanhamkara, Medhamkara, Saranamkara, and nearly a dozen more Buddahs. As for it not being Theistic what about Theravada Buddhism?

You confuse hero worship and reincarnation with theism. Next you will tell me that fans of superman comics are theists. Not all supernaturalists are automatically theists but all theists are automatically supernaturalists.

Starboy

[Starboy]

Originally posted by Suburbanite, read on my pathetic mentally impotent elder.

Suburbanite, imagine if you were educated. You could insult competently, perhaps even with style and wit.

Starboy