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    dumb questlon-

    dumb question
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    why dont people wonder ls all we see caused by another force or splrltual law? causlng us too see all that we see? lol
    lm mentally dumb - help me out


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    People do wonder that. People also wonder if everything is a figment of their immagination (solipsm). People also wonder if invisible fairies are walking around. The immagination can come up with numerous feasible possibilities, and in fact there are infinite possibilites. Infinite possiblities is overwhelming, so people develop a system to discount some of these possibilities. The system most people use is by trying to explain their observations with the minimum number of postulates possible. An example is, if someone sees a rock fall to earth, they postulate that objects are pulled to heavy objects by gravity, rather than a more complicated, although feasible postulate, that invisible undectable fairies are pulling the rock towards the earth.
    The reason for this, is even if invisible undectable fairies are in fact the reason for gravity, the fact that the rock is being pulled to the earth can be completely predict using the theory of gravity. Generally, when two theories have equal consequences, the simpler one is usually adopted.


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    Dumb question?

    There are no dumb questions, only dumb people

    But no, people wonder all the time if we're "the glass jar on someone's shelf" and things like that.

    "But it wasn't until he met his beautiful wife that he learned using logic and reason isn't enough. You have to be a dick to everyone who doesn't think like you." - South Park on Richard Dawkins

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    of course we wonder no-one worth their salt would debate that. However we tend to discount that which doesn't fit into our own belief system, theists and atheists alike.


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    Woohoo! Drunken first post for teh win.

    Welcome to volconvo.


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    You mean like Descartes' evil demon? In this scenario, we are thinking entities in the ether being blasted with sense-perceptions by an evil demon who likes to mess with us, making us think the world is composed of finite, corporeal things when in fact it isn't.

    Act that your principle of action might safely be made a law for the whole world.

    - Immanuel Kant

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    Quote Quote by: golf1234 View Post
    dumb question
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    why dont people wonder ls all we see caused by another force or splrltual law? causlng us too see all that we see? lol
    lm mentally dumb - help me out
    There are various types of people. Most of them wonder but in different manner.

    Theists for example have full faith in their religions and believe that this physical world which we see, including us has been built by some spiritual force terming God generally.

    Atheists and Scientists believe that nature has laws which govern the physical world and there can not be any manifested God anywhere existing who mechanically fabricated this universe. But they too wonder, without openly admiting that something beyond this physical world might be there. Since, a physical proof is not possible for metaphysical state, they have developed a faith that no such world exists.

    Personally, I feel there can be a metaphysical world other than this our physical world; both of which are just properties of some great nature existing eternally, which one might give the name GOD/DOG or anythinng else.

    So saying that great nature (universal Consciousness) is the root cause of what we see physically or exist metaphysically.


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    Quote Quote by: golf1234 View Post
    dumb question
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    why dont people wonder ls all we see caused by another force or splrltual law? causlng us too see all that we see? lol
    lm mentally dumb - help me out
    If your a Christian, this force is called the Priesthood. Its the power in which all things are set into motion. The spiritual laws are what is understood as Moral Laws, and so on. The priesthood only works when a person is trying to work along side the moral laws.

    "Is there any conflict between science and religion? There is no conflict in the mind of God, but often there is conflict in the minds of men." -Henery Eyring

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    Quote Quote by: Kakumei View Post
    If your a Christian, this force is called the Priesthood. Its the power in which all things are set into motion. The spiritual laws are what is understood as Moral Laws, and so on. The priesthood only works when a person is trying to work along side the moral laws.
    Imagine a person, who is brought up without any religious knowledge or religion what so ever background. Would he not have any morals? Do you feel he would not imagine how he came into this world? Who he is in realty? How this universe has been created? What is the power behind all that he would see around irrespective having NO religious knowledge??...etc.

    To my mind. he would continue thinking about such riddle type qquestions even in the absence of knowledge of religions !!


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    Quote Quote by: Kuldeep View Post
    Imagine a person, who is brought up without any religious
    knowledge or religion what so ever background.
    Would he not have any morals?
    In many ways, morality is left up to the individual. Religion needn't figure into it at all, though.

    Grandpa h.

    Post by post, building his arguments by smashing a couple of theirs -- for America.

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    What you are referring to is a Berkeleyan universe.

    Check out George Berkeley.


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    Quote Quote by: Kuldeep View Post
    Imagine a person, who is brought up without any religious knowledge or religion what so ever background. Would he not have any morals? Do you feel he would not imagine how he came into this world? Who he is in realty? How this universe has been created? What is the power behind all that he would see around irrespective having NO religious knowledge??...etc.

    To my mind. he would continue thinking about such riddle type qquestions even in the absence of knowledge of religions !!
    Well, any man likes to know where he came from. Somethings have simpler answers.

    "Is there any conflict between science and religion? There is no conflict in the mind of God, but often there is conflict in the minds of men." -Henery Eyring

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