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Suburbanite · Aug 6, 2004, 05:27 am

I was talking to friend today about American mannerisms in dialogue and what we both agreed on was that many Americans are desperate to play the victim of any situation. They often exaggerate efforts and hardships, whereas those inclined to hardships of any kind from elsewhere will more likely play it down. What do you think the American obsession with victimization stems from? What does it produce?

I think it is a bit circular. I think that particular movements as of late regarding racism and sexism have set a standard for not producing equality but compensating for victimization. Black people, for example, are not simply entitled to a better primary education when discussing race with these “victim-worshippers”, but rather they should be awarded later in life for their prior injustices through Affirmative Action. This is an over politicized example, one whose logistics I don’t want to get into. The important part is the mentality of the average American, who believes the more social harm that has come your way the cooler you are for having overcome it. The ubermensch would never play the victim.

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Suburbanite BANNED Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,203	I was talking to friend today about American mannerisms in dialogue and what we both agreed on was that many Americans are desperate to play the victim of any situation. They often exaggerate efforts and hardships, whereas those inclined to hardships of any kind from elsewhere will more likely play it down. What do you think the American obsession with victimization stems from? What does it produce? I think it is a bit circular. I think that particular movements as of late regarding racism and sexism have set a standard for not producing equality but compensating for victimization. Black people, for example, are not simply entitled to a better primary education when discussing race with these “victim-worshippers”, but rather they should be awarded later in life for their prior injustices through Affirmative Action. This is an over politicized example, one whose logistics I don’t want to get into. The important part is the mentality of the average American, who believes the more social harm that has come your way the cooler you are for having overcome it. The ubermensch would never play the victim.