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    Quote Quote by: linda_mary_13 View Post
    What reasoning are you referring to? I stated the tie that Obama has to the Nation of Islam in response to Jack's question. Please indicate specifically which words qualified this statement of facts to be bad reasoning.

    Your jump to a conclusion, the one floating in YOUR head, has left you in peril.
    The conclusion I jumped to oh so quickly is that you associate Obama's 'tie' to the Nation of Islam as a bad thing. Correct me if I am wrong there.

    In fact, the fact his state has the biggest Islamic organisation inside it presents an excellent advantage he has in terms of attracting Muslim voters. Nothing bad about it at all.

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    I agree with pikatore. To imply that someone "has a relationship with" an organization simply due to the fact that they represent the senatorial district in which that person/group is , is really ridiculous. By the same logic President Bush also has a relationship with the Nation of Islam.

    Secondly your phrase "has a relationship with" implies that he supports them and agrees with their group, otherwise why would you have a problem with it? After all you apparently do not like the nation of Islam so it is a fact that you "have a relationship" with them as well. If you have evidence that Obama personally agrees with and supports the Nation of Islam please provide it . If not please do not make insinuations that you cannot support .

    Yes I did use obama in the OP so you are right his views are fair play. If you can specifically tell me his views which correspond to the views of the Antichrist that would be cool. it simply seemed to me you were expressing your general personal disagreement with obama instead of relating it to the topic .

    More directly factually you state
    All the major religions believe we are in the end time
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    (Obama)... holds the world higher then our nation
    These are factually incorrect statements. The largest Christian religion in the world is current the Catholics. I do not believe they support End Time theology and certainly they do not believe we are in the End Times. Many other large Cristian denominations also do not believe in the End Times (Methodists, Lutheran, Espicopalian) Certainly the other major religions do not support it at all (Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish....)

    I do not believe your second statement above to be true in any way. If you have information supporting your statement, please provide. if not I think a retraction would be in order .


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    [QUOTE=isaone;535942]Is Obama the Antichrist or are some people morons ?QUOTE]

    Answer to Question One: I doubt it.
    Answer to Question Two: I've no doubt about it.




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    Quote Quote by: isaone View Post
    What do you think and do any of you actually believe in a literal Antichrist as described in Revelations ?
    As an Agnostic who leans more toward believing than not, I tend to theorize that the Antichrist as described in Revelations is plausible. If Hitler's rise to power and subsequent havoc thereafter were described, it wouldn't be believable. But, we know that it happened.

    Regarding the Antichrist, Obama fit the bill as far as his captivating speaking charisma; and, for a while, it did appear that the world was unable to see him clearly. However, the Antichrist as described in Revelations will be a mastermind at war strategy; something that definitely does NOT describe inexperienced Obama. Also, there is much more skepticism around Obama now, so his public speaking captivity appears to be wearing thin.

    Nice post.


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    Quote Quote by: linda_mary_13 View Post
    What reasoning are you referring to? I stated the tie that Obama has to the Nation of Islam in response to Jack's question. Please indicate specifically which words qualified this statement of facts to be bad reasoning.

    Your jump to a conclusion, the one floating in YOUR head, has left you in peril.
    Oh, snap, Linda, I like your style!


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    Palin should be taking care of her 4 month old baby

    Where you say that Obama is inexperienced, you must no have looked at his resume. Obama and Biden have taught Constitutional Law at Colleges and both have for the record did not take 6 years to complete a 4 year degree. What kind of mother is she and what kind of values does she have to not being there where durning the 1st 6 months of her child's life. The woman is the 1st teacher and she shoud be buliding a bond with her child instead of taking trying to be VP...


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    Quote Quote by: jayola View Post
    Where you say that Obama is inexperienced, you must no have looked at his resume. Obama and Biden have taught Constitutional Law at Colleges and both have for the record did not take 6 years to complete a 4 year degree. What kind of mother is she and what kind of values does she have to not being there where durning the 1st 6 months of her child's life. The woman is the 1st teacher and she shoud be buliding a bond with her child instead of taking trying to be VP...
    This isn't that debate. It's about Obama being the Antichrist . . . and regarding the Antichrist, Revelations states that the Antichrist will be a strategic mastermind at war. And, Obama has no experience in said field.


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    Obama should be the next president

    Obama does not and should not have any experience being a religious authority. He is running for political office not to minister. Let's not let us polictical differents be confused with religious idealogy...


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    Quote Quote by: jayola View Post
    Obama does not and should not have any experience being a religious authority. He is running for political office not to minister. Let's not let us polictical differents be confused with religious idealogy...
    Again, this thread is about Obama as the ANTI-CHRIST. STAY ON TOPIC!


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    What kind of mother is she and what kind of values does she have to not being there where durning the 1st 6 months of her child's life. The woman is the 1st teacher and she shoud be buliding a bond with her child instead of taking trying to be VP...
    Sounds oddly like an anti-femenist argument for women getting out of the workplace.

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    Quote Quote by: Dadoo View Post
    Would not the slayers of Christ be thusly "anti-Christs"?
    As a pair, they cancel each other, and thusly only one would be known, or separated from the totality of the Christ experience.
    What you are left with is the whole and God.


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    Quote Quote by: pikatore View Post
    The conclusion I jumped to oh so quickly is that you associate Obama's 'tie' to the Nation of Islam as a bad thing. Correct me if I am wrong there.

    In fact, the fact his state has the biggest Islamic organisation inside it presents an excellent advantage he has in terms of attracting Muslim voters. Nothing bad about it at all.
    I never indicated whether it was bad or good. I only stated the fact of the matter. The tie to Obama and the Nation of Islam is that Obama represents the district their headdquaters reside in, on the south side of Chicago. That is why the nation of islam is present for him at rallies, for protection. They are taking care of their own community. They are aware of Obama because Obama was their community leader. They have prospered under Obama's leadership and I think you would agree that is remarkable.

    So I guess I am correcting you. I never said I thought it was a bad thing. You are the only one who has suggested it is bad.


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