is religion debatable

[SoylentGreen]

Quote by: Lickyfingerbum See what I mean

Not really. I have seen a few threads where theists and atheists take the point that god doesn't or does exist.
One offers faith the other expects reason. It's not the core values but the differing means of communicating.

[Morality Games]

I will break down the process as I see it.

Human minds develop two distinct features which set them apart from those of animals: standards of truth and methods for testing ideas to see if they qualify as 'truths' under these standards.

The character of each person's standard of truth depends on the hierarchy of their desires and whatever experiences leave great impressions on them.

Atheists insist that only those ideas which seem consistent with the facts and probabilities of humanity's collective knowledge ought to be used as 'truths'.

Theists insist there are some ideas which, even if inconsistent with the facts and probabilities of humanity's collective knowledge, ought to be used as 'truths', or attempt to convince atheists their ideas are not inconsistent with these authorities.

Atheists insist it is morally incorrect to disregard the authority facts and probabilties on what we should consider true.

Theists insist it isn't morally incorrect to disregard the authority facts and probabilities on what we should consider true, or agree with atheists and attempt to argue they believe in something consistent with the facts and probabilities.

Atheists insist it is morally incorrect because it is harmful to humankind's interests to allow ideas inconsistent with the facts and probabilities serious weight in the public discourse.

Theists insist it isn't harmful to humankind's interests, or challenge the existence of "interests" per se, or agree with atheists but say their ideas deserve to be given serious weight because they are consistent with the facts and probabilities.