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Old Jul 22, 2008, 03:32 am   #1 (permalink)
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Ultimate stigma.

Hello,
If I may put forward a Rather Grand Truth!

GOD

Forget race creed color. When will we be able to break down the stigma and taboo of mental illness. For I write this as a man on a section in the UK. All because I am miss understood and I have no pedestal for my Art. Give me my God given rights as I wish to be CREATIVE NOT ILL. Yes! I'm angry at the disrespect shown to the NATURE of God but not ill. Nature is the greatest blessing of all. God is not a debate. It is FACT..

Congratulations to G.W.Bush for his open statement towards the nature of GOD!

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Old Jul 22, 2008, 09:25 am   #2 (permalink)
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What's being offered for debate and what's its relation to Politics & Government?



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Old Jul 22, 2008, 12:24 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Old Jul 22, 2008, 06:33 pm   #4 (permalink)
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Blarrghle?

Well, I'd relate it to Politics by way of the mention of something George Bush said, but the lack of a George Bush quote or link kind of nips that avenue of discussion in the bud.

OP, would you care to tell us about the nature of God as you see it?


I think it goes without saying the any suggestion to invade Canada is mind-numbingly stupid.
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Old Jul 22, 2008, 06:47 pm   #5 (permalink)
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Philosophy & Religion it is....


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Old Jul 23, 2008, 03:40 am   #6 (permalink)
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I see how it is here, lets ignore the topic and debate where the topic belongs. However, lets not belong in the topic - simply because we want to show that an authority exists in this forum; unless you are willing to obey the authority, we will not discuss what you have obviously brought up.

How sad this forum is... a mere scaled model of society. Either you talk about what we tell you to talk about or you don't talk about anything.

A pretentious but overwhelmingly ironic version of what we come here to outsmart - ourselves. Who cares what board this belongs in???? Depict the subject or depict yourself. Don't depict the obvious...


I'll 'answer' the OP,

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Forget race creed color. When will we be able to break down the stigma and taboo of mental illness. For I write this as a man on a section in the UK. All because I am miss understood and I have no pedestal for my Art. Give me my God given rights as I wish to be CREATIVE NOT ILL.


The taboo of mental illness?? Unwilling to believe in an illusion is your description of a mental illness?

It is you who is ill - with arrogance. You think you know how it is, but you're more clueless than the oblivious ants who walk the earth. No one knows what you seek. You seek what no one knows. Why have you come here to preach to your reflection??


Don't live to know, but know to live. For this short time you have been alloted by the mystery within, don't waste it swimming in quicksand... a few pseudo intellectual connected sentences have erected your interest in the ultimate question. A question that will never be answered is a question only a fool would ask... and only fools die more confused than they were born.

Don't come here to tell tales of the dead - which this topic has been for a long time. Our existence is not a question, but an axiom you have ignored and turned into something impossible?
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Old Jul 24, 2008, 08:39 am   #7 (permalink)
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I see how it is here, lets ignore the topic and debate where the topic belongs. However, lets not belong in the topic - simply because we want to show that an authority exists in this forum; unless you are willing to obey the authority, we will not discuss what you have obviously brought up.

How sad this forum is... a mere scaled model of society. Either you talk about what we tell you to talk about or you don't talk about anything.

A pretentious but overwhelmingly ironic version of what we come here to outsmart - ourselves. Who cares what board this belongs in???? Depict the subject or depict yourself. Don't depict the obvious...


I'll 'answer' the OP,





The taboo of mental illness?? Unwilling to believe in an illusion is your description of a mental illness?

It is you who is ill - with arrogance. You think you know how it is, but you're more clueless than the oblivious ants who walk the earth. No one knows what you seek. You seek what no one knows. Why have you come here to preach to your reflection??


Don't live to know, but know to live. For this short time you have been alloted by the mystery within, don't waste it swimming in quicksand... a few pseudo intellectual connected sentences have erected your interest in the ultimate question. A question that will never be answered is a question only a fool would ask... and only fools die more confused than they were born.

Don't come here to tell tales of the dead - which this topic has been for a long time. Our existence is not a question, but an axiom you have ignored and turned into something impossible?
Well! They you are then.

And I AM IN GREAT MENTAL HEALTH AND MIND.

Just threw some ideas out there as this is a debate forum after all.

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Old Jul 24, 2008, 08:16 pm   #8 (permalink)
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Does anybody have any idea what is going on?


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Old Jul 24, 2008, 08:40 pm   #9 (permalink)
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Does anybody have any idea what is going on?
No, in fact none of his responses since he joined two months ago, have ever made sense.
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Old Jul 25, 2008, 12:55 am   #10 (permalink)
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Just threw some ideas out there as this is a debate forum after all.
M-W definition of debate

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to discuss a question by considering opposed arguments
Your statement as quoted above ( Quote #1) presents a perfectly reasonable statement to make about the system. Any place which debate happens is basically a group of people doing just that. What guides them is a question (see definition in quote #2 box) which gives LOGIC to the debate (or atleast a semblance of it :) )

This is where I get into my own opinions (no idea why I'm outlining my transitions but meh ). With out logic pervading in a debate 2 things happen, we A/ loose control of our emotions and loose the point of what we debate because we close our minds and refuse to ADAPT our point of view when we are given a point which is "right".
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B/ People get insulted and it gets ugly as insults fly. Basically being illogical in a debate tends towards events which give debates a bad name.

I don't know how to say this without sounding insulting but take it as a personal comment upon your actions and that in all reality how can I really affect you that much in the long term outside this forum.

My comment: You are being a hypocrite with your two statements

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Just threw some ideas out there as this is a debate forum after all.
You throw out an apparently undebatable fact on a debate forum but in the second post you basically claim to be wanting to promote debate. IMHO you were only trying to provoke meaningless quarreling.

Personally I can't find a question that really fits what the conversation has been so far so in a way this needs a reboot of sorts to make it a DEBATE.


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Old Jul 25, 2008, 09:22 am   #11 (permalink)
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Interesting!

SO that is politics then!Nailed.
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Old Jul 25, 2008, 04:15 pm   #12 (permalink)
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Interesting!

SO that is politics then!Nailed.
Would you explain your logic to me please. I look at my statement and your first comment and get 2+2. The second line has it equaling 5 and we all know that 2+2=4. Please unconfuzzle me please


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Old Jul 26, 2008, 09:16 am   #13 (permalink)
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Would you explain your logic to me please. I look at my statement and your first comment and get 2+2. The second line has it equaling 5 and we all know that 2+2=4. Please unconfuzzle me please

This has now what seems to become a mathematical conundrum.
I suggest putting the 4 into the 5 thus dealing with 1.

This is the only Logical explanation I can manage right now as I am very busy painting.
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Old Jul 26, 2008, 04:59 pm   #14 (permalink)
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Old Jul 27, 2008, 03:15 am   #15 (permalink)
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This has now what seems to become a mathematical conundrum.
I suggest putting the 4 into the 5 thus dealing with 1.

This is the only Logical explanation I can manage right now as I am very busy painting.
You missed the point of what I was saying.... Now to be blunt.

Your logic makes no sense, have a go at explaining it to me in simple logic so that the meaning is clear.

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90ogle, You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him shop at Wal-mart.
That is a very difficult task in deed


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Old Jul 27, 2008, 08:46 am   #16 (permalink)
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90ogle, You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him shop at Wal-mart.

Indeed not!

Unless "Wal-Mart" is in deep water!

Thus the "horse" drinks the "water" revealing "Wal- Mart"

Or in my case. An otherwise Great British shopping phenomenon

"Marks and Spencer"

Yum Yum.

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