Is Sex Sacred?

[Aussie]

As soon as you lable sex as sacred under a certain meaning, then others will be excluded from that. Oh wait....

[Kuldeep]

Quote by: Walrus I find the idea of sex being sacred absurd; it is simply a biological function essential for our survival, much like eating, drinking, defecating and urinating. Sex is driven by instinct and the desire for pleasure; only humans consciously indulge in sex to reproduce.

What do you mean by sacred ?? Not in religious meaning but sacred as biological urge only. I mean nothing immoral in the act of sex.

[SoylentGreen]

Quote by: Kuldeep What do you mean by sacred ?? Not in religious meaning but sacred as biological urge only. I mean nothing immoral in the act of sex.

I am not aware of any official use of the word sacred in biology.
If not a religious meaning then again I ask what possible meaning can sacred have?

[Domino]

A thing can be treated as sacred without need for a religious reason. It happens all the time in sports and politics.

[SoylentGreen]

Quote by: Domino A thing can be treated as sacred without need for a religious reason. It happens all the time in sports and politics.

The in that case I would say I am a fan of sex or even a follower.

[Walrus]

Quote by: Kuldeep What do you mean by sacred ?? Not in religious meaning but sacred as biological urge only. I mean nothing immoral in the act of sex.

Admittedly I was thinking more in the religious context, but for me sex shouldn’t be taken too seriously and should be enjoyed rather than venerated.

[Arawn-ap-Hywel]

What about tantric? Or pagan wiccan forms where the energies of pleasure are engaged?

There are a number of religions that offer a "service of copulation" where both parties should achieve a nivarna experience when expressing their love physicaly. It would be difficult to associate these acts as anamalisic as the human mind play and elements of control are essential to success for both :)

[Walrus]

Yes, if sex is part of a religious ritual, it could indeed be considered as sacred within that context, but then so can eating and drinking, as demonstrated when taking Holy Communion.

[Praxius]

Quote by: Technosoul I just thought up a new topic for debate... is sex sacred? I seems like it is just a animalistic urge to motivate a speicies to reproduce. But our religions want to make it something sacred or something that needs to be blessed by a ritural of marrage and so forth in order to meet moral standards. And poets and those who sing songs like to inject a concept of romance which takes it out of the scope of pure animal behavorism. What do you think? Should sex be viewed as a sacred act, is romance a good standard to define mating? Are we hiding the truth about our natural nature as animals in a cloak of darkness? Or should sex really be a spiritual experience?

To me, it is subjective to the individual. Some may hold it sacred.... others will use it for pleasure and tramp it out 70's style with as many people as they can.... and then there's the in between.

For myself... sex is sex, however I only have sex with the person I am in a relationship with currently.... as most get a bit touchy when you start treating sex like a handshake. The main thing that has balanced my principles on how I approach sex is mainly do to the possible consequences of my actions.... children... perhaps triplets like my sister, or STDs and the sort.

I personally don't treat or think of sex as something sacred by any means, but I sure as hell don't want to end up having a kid with someone I don't want to deal with for the rest of my life.... and I don't need some gross crotch rot.

[Praxius]

Quote by: Jack In my book (soon to be released as an alternative to the Bible, titled, "Jack said it so it must be so", or "The Bable"), the sex act itself is pure instinct, one we share with most all life forms on the planet. The "romantic" aspects of sex are human inventions based on our emotions.

How is it "Human Invention" when we have other animal species on the planet which will stay with one partner for the rest of their lives? What concept can be made to explain why they would do this? Instinct or romance within the animal kingdom?

I mean to just think that we're the only ones on the planet to experience "Love" and "Companionship" to the point where we'd use those things to explain or justify our reasons for staying with one partner or to have sex with just that one partner, doesn't seem to make much sense, since many animals have shown their own levels of emotion, such as fear, truama, shock, happiness, sorrow and the sort.... why couldn't they also experience things such as Romance?

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Praxius How is it "Human Invention" when we have other animal species on the planet which will stay with one partner for the rest of their lives? What concept can be made to explain why they would do this? Instinct or romance within the animal kingdom? I mean to just think that we're the only ones on the planet to experience "Love" and "Companionship" to the point where we'd use those things to explain or justify our reasons for staying with one partner or to have sex with just that one partner, doesn't seem to make much sense, since many animals have shown their own levels of emotion, such as fear, truama, shock, happiness, sorrow and the sort.... why couldn't they also experience things such as Romance?

Romance might be viewed as a mating ritural. I notice that the tom cats like to roll around on the ground and the female cats will do the same thing when "in the mood". A male animal in some speicies will bring the female a gift and lay it down in front of her, normally something good to eat, now that is the same as buying a girl a rose. How romanitic is that?

Natualists would say it is to show the female he is a good provider, but how do we not know it is a romantic jesture? As a indication of not being selfish and caring about the potential mate?

Just like Jews and their neighbors hold land as something sacred, as a god given right to have. So do animals view their truf as something sacred. Yet, how much of that is just a about putting a religious label on something naturally important for the survival of the speicies?

When humans moved from the jungle into the grasslands of Africa in search of food they experimented with mushrooms that caused them to experience mind alternating visions. Those enduced "trips" to other dimensions of conscious perspective became a religion. And the mushroom grew most often in the damp dung of cattle that roamed the grasslands. So they thought the mushroom was a gift from the cow, holy cow, sacred mother of religion and of the magical vision. So they protected the cow and learned how to domesticate animals, milk them, and drink their blood. As they migrated the mushrooms did not follow, so they forgot about the mushroom but the idea of a Sacred Cow was still honored (as in India). They only forgot why they honor cattle as being sacred. Same might be so of that first kiss, that frist sexual thrill, we move on and forget that original high but still concider sex as something sacred and "speical" because the first encounter had a transfroming effect on us, a awakening whole new spectrum for human experience as an individual. As histroy progressed the cattle continued to be a part of our culture and important to our survival as a speices, that bondage between two spieces of animals is rather interesting, and some cowboy songs make such a lifestyle rather romanitic sounding even if sex was never part of that relationship. Now science knows that mushrooms did not magically appear in the bull shit, for unlike plants that have visible seeds the pores of the mushroom are microscopic and not visible to natural eyes. But the pimitives of visionary religion did not know that.

Is this making any sense?

Romancing the stars, that resulted in them being sacred objects in religion and also objects that science found very useful for a number of reasons. Which came first is debatable, cosmic science or religious beliefs about the influence of stars, or a mixture of both which later seperated into two different groups. The moon is still an influence on romantic lovers and yet we had scientists walking around on that sacred place, collecting rocks.

[loser]

In my book (soon to be released as an alternative to the Bible, titled, "Jack said it so it must be so", or "The Bable"), the sex act itself is pure instinct, one we share with most all life forms on the planet.

In your book, Jack, what is the best sex? Is it best same-sex? Is it better with more experienced lovers (grannies) or is it better with complete novices (virgins)? Are some animals more pleasurable than others? Is sex with inorganic or non-mammal creatures better? Is it better if orgiastic or one-on-one? Does pain equal pleasure? To humiliate or be humiliated, is that the question? Are bodily fluids important? How many of the senses should be involved? Which sense is more pleasurable, aural (ear,hear) or oral (tongue, taste)? Or is it smell (nose, rose)? I particularly like sight (eyes, thighs). Am I a pervert...or is there any such thing?

When it comes to sex, there are so many questions.

However, I have been told by quite a few women that sex with me was a religious experience.

Whatever did they mean by that?

What that somehow connected to their "Oh, my God, Oh, my God"'s?

Most religions promote sex (i.e, "Be fruitful and multiply"). There's a whole lot of begetting going on in the Bible. Sex is knowledge. To 'know' someone in the Bible is to have sex with them.

All of my life I have been trying to help mankind...how come most of the ladies didn't see it that way?

I could talk about sex all day but...

I think I'll go have some.

Just trying to do my part...

[SoylentGreen]

loser However, I have been told by quite a few women that sex with me was a religious experience.

Perhaps it was their way of saying it didn't really feel like it happened

[Sweet Katie]

Quote by: Technosoul I just thought up a new topic for debate... is sex sacred? I seems like it is just a animalistic urge to motivate a speicies to reproduce. But our religions want to make it something sacred or something that needs to be blessed by a ritural of marrage and so forth in order to meet moral standards. And poets and those who sing songs like to inject a concept of romance which takes it out of the scope of pure animal behavorism. What do you think? Should sex be viewed as a sacred act, is romance a good standard to define mating? Are we hiding the truth about our natural nature as animals in a cloak of darkness? Or should sex really be a spiritual experience?

The decision to become a monogamous creature is a natural develop that comes with the maturity of emotional control. Instead of following our instincts to mate because of hormones, we analyze the options provided to us and decide which candidate would provide the best long term advances. Then, as we age, boredom or a better opportunity may change that initial decision. How the individual human being views all this has to do with factors such as right-left brain thinking, life experiences, sensory perception, etc. . . .

[Kuldeep]

Quote by: SoylentGreen I am not aware of any official use of the word sacred in biology. If not a religious meaning then again I ask what possible meaning can sacred have?

Socially I suppose what is considered decent !

[Kuldeep]

Quote by: SoylentGreen The in that case I would say I am a fan of sex or even a follower.

It is just a phisological urge like any other of your body. Why to blame poor sex and declare it un-sacred by any ways of description??

[Kuldeep]

Quote by: Technosoul Romance might be viewed as a mating ritural. I notice that the tom cats like to roll around on the ground and the female cats will do the same thing when "in the mood". A male animal in some speicies will bring the female a gift and lay it down in front of her, normally something good to eat, now that is the same as buying a girl a rose. How romanitic is that?

There is another way of having romance which is prevalent in Angora and many other species of Rabbits. I was involved in the technology transfer of Rabbit farming. It ws learnt male rabbit thinks himself to be higher status than female one. Male would never follow female to have sex but it was always coustomery therefore to put female into male's cage. Sex mating never was possible if male was taken to female cage !!!

I think such thing occur only in case of rabbits. In most of the species male run after females, including humans.

[Night]

I would say no...just as sex between two insects is not special, neither is sex between humans. Would you consider your grandmother and grandpa (or gardener if your grandma likes the younger men) having sex to be "sacred"? Neither would I. I think sex is just another natural thing that people do, albeit a bit more pleasant and interesting then most other natural aspects of life.

[SoylentGreen]

[quote=Kuldeep;511609Why to blame poor sex and declare it un-sacred by any ways of description??[/QUOTE]

Because if you let it be called sacred some fool of a theist will insist it must then belong to god and god personally told them there are rules to be followed and the rules are ,BLAH,BLAH,BLAH.

No thanks, sex is not sacred. mythical creatures don't have a point of view and man made religions shouldn't try and control people through their sex lives.

[Rainbow]

Quote by: Technosoul Is Sex Sacred ? Should sex be viewed as a sacred act, is romance a good standard to define mating ?

No, it is not.
Aside of prolonging a particular species, a sexual activity should be a form of deep feelings between interested parties. Homo Sapiens has modified a sexual activity - itself, by adding that element of feeling (within it).

What some guys take a sex for ?
It varies of individual approach.