Hi all I would discuss with you about I.....M

[smartcode]

Ofcourse you guessed it.. Islam

I dont see Islam discusion in here. I want to start that.

What is your opinion about ISlam ??
How did you get this opinion?? Reading a book or a friend

[BorisTheFerret]

My opinion on Islam is the same as my opinion on Judaism and Christianity: a load of archaic nonsense peddled by fundamentalist bigots and control-freaks intent on robbing the rest of us of the right to live in peace.

[blue saki]

My opinion being just that; opinion is Islam (def. submit,surrender) proclaims to be a religion of peace and one certainly does not get the impression they support the rest of the world in obtaining peace.
Very seldom do you see a Muslim leader at a press conferance or such denouncing terrorism and extremests, even by those free here in America. It is what I find most disturbing, the silence is deafening and I believe adds to the justification the radicals feel.
It is a religion wraught with hypocrisy; not only on a terror level, but within their own society and daily lives. Perhaps this is from where the hostilities for western culture derives.

[Matt W]

Rubbish. There are plenty of those denounciations, but there are plenty of those who choose not to see them.

Islam is just like any other religion - based on outdated concepts with a tendancy towards celebrating the extremists. Sad, but true.

[blue saki]

Quote by: Matt W Rubbish. There are plenty of those denounciations, but there are plenty of those who choose not to see them. Islam is just like any other religion - based on outdated concepts with a tendancy towards celebrating the extremists. Sad, but true.

I beg to differ with your description of "rubbish". Perhaps I should clarify my statement. There are sporatic denounciations yes. However, I see no united front among the Nation as a whole. One cannot choose something that is not available. I visit Arabic as well as a healthy variation of international media and I do not see, even though I am looking for unity and consistancy from Islamic leaders.

I do agree it is a religion based on outdated concepts as are others.

[Walrus]

My opinion of Islam would depend on Islam’s opinion of non believers.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: BorisTheFerret My opinion on Islam is the same as my opinion on Judaism and Christianity: a load of archaic nonsense peddled by fundamentalist bigots and control-freaks intent on robbing the rest of us of the right to live in peace.

Oh my, Boris has said that so well that I'll just quote him.


That is my opinion as well.

[Hurt]

Quote by: BorisTheFerret My opinion on Islam is the same as my opinion on Judaism and Christianity: a load of archaic nonsense peddled by fundamentalist bigots and control-freaks intent on robbing the rest of us of the right to live in peace.

I'll agree to that.. too many religions and religious people are extremist to the point that they forget their duties to their very own religion.

[Aussie]

Quote by: blue saki I beg to differ with your description of "rubbish". Perhaps I should clarify my statement. There are sporatic denounciations yes. However, I see no united front among the Nation as a whole. One cannot choose something that is not available. I visit Arabic as well as a healthy variation of international media and I do not see, even though I am looking for unity and consistancy from Islamic leaders. I do agree it is a religion based on outdated concepts as are others.

You could say the same of Christianity and it's extremists though. You dont see united religious fronts cause there arent any! There's too many demoninations and groups to form one collective group.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Hurt too many religions and religious people are extremist to the point that they forget their duties to their very own religion.

... and country of residence, their neighbors, and common sense.

[SoylentGreen]

Quote by: smartcode Ofcourse you guessed it.. Islam I dont see Islam discusion in here. I want to start that. What is your opinion about ISlam ?? How did you get this opinion?? Reading a book or a friend

I am not sure I believe you.
Otherwise you would know why there are no islamics here discussing their religion.

[smartcode]

SoylentGreen
Milton Bradley
Aussie
Hurt
Milton Bradley
Walrus
blue saki
Matt W
BorisTheFerret

Thank you for your participation in my post about Islam. I excuse all of you for the bad impression about Islam. It is related to the very corrupted picture drawn by the media. I may refere you to a small clip about an American girl was asked about the violance in Islam then you will hear the answer from her.

Angela Collins is an American women who converted from catholic to Islam weeks before 9/11 .

[blue saki]

smartcode - Could you post a couple of quotes from this young lady? (I have d-up) Until then I will reserve my reply. Thanks in advance.

[smartcode]

Quote by: blue saki smartcode - Could you post a couple of quotes from this young lady? (I have d-up) Until then I will reserve my reply. Thanks in advance.

The interviewer showed her an American bearded Muslim saying : "We should go and slaughter their women and children one by one " then asked her dont you become angry when you listen to that?
She answered " yes it is my religion and it's been hijacked" She knows that these clips are displayed in the media to corrupt the picture of the Islam. She knows that Islam is the religion of tolerance.

[Rainbow]

Quote by: smartcode What is your opinion about ISlam ?? How did you get this opinion?? Reading a book or a friend

Answer the following question, please :
- why women (in Islam-driven states) have no equal rights with men ?
(Do not tell me that Allah commended to treat women that way, please.)

[blue saki]

Thanks again...Wise young lady there.... and I definitely agree. I guess that is my point overall. Trust me, I do believe the media has participated to a large extent in the corrupted picture of Islam. Do you see a movement of sorts among Islam to change that picture? If so, please quote objective sources and I will be happy to oblige.
Until then, I will stand behind my original statement.

Furthermore, the same can be said for the anti-American media in the Middle East as well. Is there a popular media source there which conveys Americans are on their side? That our intent is not domination and extinction of the culture and religion, but is an honest effort to end tyranny and the suffering, murder and torture of countless Muslims at the hands of their own? And that we have proven that honest intent with our own blood? With our own money to the detriment of our own economy and united society? Not only to the detriment of America but the world as whole, regardless of their respective religions and cultures?

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: smartcode SoylentGreen Milton Bradley Aussie Hurt Milton Bradley Walrus blue saki Matt W BorisTheFerret Thank you for your participation in my post about Islam. I excuse all of you for the bad impression about Islam. It is related to the very corrupted picture drawn by the media. I may refere you to a small clip about an American girl was asked about the violance in Islam then you will hear the answer from her.

My impression of Islam is not corrupted by the media, my view of Islam is tainted by the fact that I think all religions are man made, and therefore bunk.


Man made God, not the other way around.

[Kuldeep]

Very true Milton !!!

Only common factors of all religions shoud be taken and formed a universal religion....Humanity

[Gods_Mercenary]

Quote by: blue saki I beg to differ with your description of "rubbish". Perhaps I should clarify my statement. There are sporatic denounciations yes. However, I see no united front among the Nation as a whole. One cannot choose something that is not available. I visit Arabic as well as a healthy variation of international media and I do not see, even though I am looking for unity and consistancy from Islamic leaders. I do agree it is a religion based on outdated concepts as are others.

Catholics don't generally feel the need to denounce actions by protestants (unless it's just some good ol protestant bashing) and vice versa. If someone beleives something different from you, why would you need to take responsibility for them?

[RealRockingham]

I believe that the perception that Muslims(or any other "group", whether religious or not, for that matter) belong to a singular group with universal traits is a mistake. Yes, Muslims see them and others as belonging to this single group, but every single Muslim has an at least slightly different definition of what the group IS.