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[Jack]

In our Muslim world We will be very angry if you claim bad thing about our example prophet Muhammed

So I take it humility and turning the other cheek aren't a part of Islamic belief?
My problem with this attitude is that it's not being kept within your "Muslim world". Muslims want everyone, everywhere, to show respect to their prophet or suffer legal retaliation or worse. I'm not a Muslim, I don't live in a Muslim nation, and I could care less if I offend a bunch of people who, like so many others, are trying to avoid entering the 21st century by clinging disparately to outdated attitudes appropriate to desert dwellers thousands of years ago. Blasphemy is not a sin in my book.

[Matt]

He is ignoring me too Rainbow.

[Rainbow]

@Matt
It looks I am not alone, in this subject :-)

[Rainbow]

@smartcode

Answer the following question, please :
- why women (in Islam-driven states) have no equal rights with men ?
(Do not tell me that Allah commended to treat women that way, please.)

[SoylentGreen]

And still to I wait a reply. It would seem that smartcode has an agenda for preaching rather than debating.

[Kuldeep]

To my mind, anything mentioned in any religion, can never be the direct directive of God. It has to be man made using own logic with imagination that God would like it that way. Since, some or the other group of people have always been responsible for starting a new religion.

Let me ask both Muslims and Christians as to what God was doing before the birth of Christ or Mohammad ?? HE was not at all worried about the people living before those times. What were HIS directives for the common man then ???

[RealRockingham]

@smartcode

Answer the following question, please :
- why women (in Islam-driven states) have no equal rights with men ?
(Do not tell me that Allah commended to treat women that way, please.)

They do, actually, in some- Turkey and Albania are the first that come to mind.

[shrike]

They do, actually, in some- Turkey and Albania are the first that come to mind.

Turkey and Albania are secular republics.

[Zhavric]

You are very biased against Islam

May be you did not know that Islam is the religion of tolerance ,peace ,love,and justice . Quraan is calling us to treat our enemies in justic.
In our Muslim world We will be very angry if you claim bad thing about our example prophet Muhammed because this is not justice. He was very great man very merciful man very brave helping poors,and very peaceful.
A man came to him and said bad words about him ,then muhammed disciples tried to kill him but the prophet refused.

In debate, what you've posted above is called an evasion. You see, I asked you specifically if it's true that Islam mandates the death of Muslims who become Atheists. I also asked you if it's mandated by Islam to murder people who create images of your prophet.

We both know the answer to both of these questions is a resounding yes... which is morally, ethically, and intellectually barbaric. Such practices have no place in a peaceful civilized world.

So, if I sound biased against muslims it's for two reasons:

1) Being an atheist, if a muslim thought I had ever been a Muslim before I became an atheist, I could be MURDERED by them.

and

2) I've yet to encounter a Muslim online who can adequately debate. Christians... atheists... agnostics... new agers... all of them can delve into the specifics of their faith (or lack there of) with equal detachment. Without preaching. I've yet to meet a Muslim who can do this. Now, what are you going to do? If you try to prove me wrong on this point and show that you can debate, you'll have to admit that Muslims are in the habit of murdering former muslim atheists. If you don't address this point, then you're proving me right when I say that Muslims can't debate.

Do you see what I did there?

[smartcode]

He is ignoring me too Rainbow.

Matt I answered you in post 22
I add also that it is not halwacination. The Qoraan is very wise book totally different from what you suggest.

[smartcode]

In debate, what you've posted above is called an evasion. You see, I asked you specifically if it's true that Islam mandates the death of Muslims who become Atheists. I also asked you if it's mandated by Islam to murder people who create images of your prophet.

We both know the answer to both of these questions is a resounding yes... which is morally, ethically, and intellectually barbaric. Such practices have no place in a peaceful civilized world.

So, if I sound biased against muslims it's for two reasons:

1) Being an atheist, if a muslim thought I had ever been a Muslim before I became an atheist, I could be MURDERED by them.

and

2) I've yet to encounter a Muslim online who can adequately debate. Christians... atheists... agnostics... new agers... all of them can delve into the specifics of their faith (or lack there of) with equal detachment. Without preaching. I've yet to meet a Muslim who can do this. Now, what are you going to do? If you try to prove me wrong on this point and show that you can debate, you'll have to admit that Muslims are in the habit of murdering former muslim atheists. If you don't address this point, then you're proving me right when I say that Muslims can't debate.

Do you see what I did there?

1-Although this rule is true but since 1400 years ago no single person converted from Islam to another religion. Milions of Muslims living in America and Europe can convert if they like but non of them did so. As a result we can deduce to that This rule is put to stop playing with the religion.

In the same time Islam does not force YOU to become muslim. If you want to become Muslim you should read and understand Islam.
By the way you can convert and reconvert hundred times nobody will murder you.

[smartcode]

Let me ask both Muslims and Christians as to what God was doing before the birth of Christ or Mohammad ?? HE was not at all worried about the people living before those times. What were HIS directives for the common man then ???

God never forgot his people on earth. If we start with Adam, he met god in the heaven. After that God sent many messengers every couple of years he sends messengers. We know Nooh (Noa), Saleh, Hood, Shuaib,Loot,Ibraham, Isaac Jacob, Johan, Ismail, Moses Jesus, Muhammed,
Muhammed is the final messenger sent by God