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stardust · May 8, 2008, 07:31 am

If the present moment exists, then past would have to exist. Since past is made up of everything which at some point was present and continuous.
Either that, or maybe time or anything dosen't exists independently. Its all perception and deception...you can colligate it to solipsism.

dontconfuseme · May 8, 2008, 05:13 pm

I was going to post a good reply, but I wasn't sure if the original thread still existed or if anyone would read it later.

Dr_Acula · May 10, 2008, 04:31 pm

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However, past and future must exist to some degree. Like there was a time before I ate the cookie, there is a time when I am eating a cookie and there is a time when I'm through eating the cookie. This is undeniable. So past and future must exist, somehow

I think that there is only one time that never changes, what changes is the cookie. There are many different states for it, but only one time for it.
Once you ate it, the cookie is gone, it doesn't exist as "the past". (there is a memory about it, but thats not existance). The same with the future cookie. Only difference is that we can talk about a potential state for the cookie there, but that's just in our minds, not in reality. Like saying Superman exists.

like saying time is just a particular state of a physical secuence. it stays where it is, but the secuence itself doesnt.
Mmmmmmhhh... cookies.

Winter wind · May 11, 2008, 10:17 am

That argument basically means that time doesn't exist.

The sequence is measured with time. That's what defines time.

Winter wind · May 11, 2008, 10:18 am

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I was going to post a good reply, but I wasn't sure if the original thread still existed or if anyone would read it later.

Go ahead, now I'm curious.

**Jack** · May 11, 2008, 01:21 pm

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That argument basically means that time doesn't exist.

The sequence is measured with time. That's what defines time.

Perhaps the bumpersticker is right: "Time is nature's way of making sure everything doesn't happen at once."

Winter wind · May 11, 2008, 01:56 pm

hahah fair enough.

Makes sense.

Thanatos · May 11, 2008, 02:14 pm

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I was going to post a good reply, but I wasn't sure if the original thread still existed or if anyone would read it later.

Brilliant!

May 8, 2008, 07:31 am	#21 (permalink) (top)
stardust Sedimentary Rock Posts: 15	.. If the present moment exists, then past would have to exist. Since past is made up of everything which at some point was present and continuous. Either that, or maybe time or anything dosen't exists independently. Its all perception and deception...you can colligate it to solipsism.

May 8, 2008, 05:13 pm	#22 (permalink) (top)
dontconfuseme Keep The Change Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 5	I was going to post a good reply, but I wasn't sure if the original thread still existed or if anyone would read it later. Christus vincit

May 11, 2008, 10:17 am	#24 (permalink) (top)
Winter wind Trenchcoat Mickey Location: Hong Kong, China Posts: 1,642	That argument basically means that time doesn't exist. The sequence is measured with time. That's what defines time. Don't forget this is all in good fun! "No matter if it is a white cat or a black cat; as long as it can catch mice, it is a good cat." Deng Xiaoping

May 11, 2008, 01:56 pm	#27 (permalink) (top)
Winter wind Trenchcoat Mickey Location: Hong Kong, China Posts: 1,642	hahah fair enough. Makes sense. Don't forget this is all in good fun! "No matter if it is a white cat or a black cat; as long as it can catch mice, it is a good cat." Deng Xiaoping