Christian Prudes

[wyoguy]

Quote by: Tycoon A lot of false theology. The Earth obviously wasn't created in six days.

I'm pretty sure that you weren't there, so how do you know?

Your new science gods can't even figure out why gravity works, Oh they can give you truck loads of info on how it works, but not one word on why.

While you're quizzing them on gravity, ask them where Hydrogen comes from (it only accounts for 75% of the universal mass). We're all well aquainted with the notion that all the heavier elements have been produced by decay of Hydrogen throughout the lives of stars and subsequent supernovas, but not one word on the origin of that Great-Grandfather of all elements - Hydrogen. They can't even produce a Little Bang whose end product is pure Hydrogen, let alone account for a Big Bang.

And while you're asking them these questions for yourself (because I'm sure you really want to know so that you're not just accepting what they say on faith), ask them one for me:

Who was the quantum physics genius that tipped off Moses that light is as fundamental (if not more so) to this universe as space and time? Who told him to place the creation of light even before the creation of the sun in the Genesis account?

[Halofan48]

So because we don't yet know something, we should automatically write it off as "god did it" ? Ya, that will do wonders for human progress

[Anmon]

Quote by: Halofan48 How do you know it's a lie? Have you read every book in existence? Of course not. There is a strong possibility that a book of this kind exists somewhere.

so wheres the author and name of it?
And it was the statement of its a serious Christian issue I was dismissing as a lie.

[Halofan48]

She's probably going to go find out and tell you. Patience.

[Anmon]

Quote by: Halofan48 She's probably going to go find out and tell you. Patience.

great, how interesting.

[Halofan48]

I'm sorry if it bothers you that you have to wait. But since she read the book, not me, i wouldn't know now would I.

[Anmon]

I dont care mate tbh, she can take all year if she wants.

[Halofan48]

o wait, she already posted it: Gela's post

[Tycoon]

Your new science gods can't even figure out why gravity works, Oh they can give you truck loads of info on how it works, but not one word on why.

Yeah, and they can give me truck loads of info on how the Earth was not created in six days. I wasn't giving a reason why, but it's still a clear contradiction of the bible.

[wyoguy]

Quote by: Halofan48 So because we don't yet know something, we should automatically write it off as "god did it" ? Ya, that will do wonders for human progress

You've already disallowed the notion that "God did it". Am I more closed-minded than you? I'll let you in on a little secret; the lack of fundamental scientific proof in no way led me to my faith in God, but it does go a long way in strengthening it.

[Tycoon]

You've already disallowed the notion that "God did it". Am I more closed-minded than you? I'll let you in on a little secret; the lack of fundamental scientific proof in no way led me to my faith in God, but it does go a long way in strengthening it.

A lack of fundamental scientific proof strengthens your faith in God? There is absolutely no proof whatsoever in God. You put your trust blindly in faith of a 2,000 year old book.

[wyoguy]

Quote by: Tycoon Yeah, and they can give me truck loads of info on how the Earth was not created in six days. I wasn't giving a reason why, but it's still a clear contradiction of the bible.

No, they can give you conjecture, hypothoses, and theories on how unlikely a six day creation might of been. But not one of them can look you in the eye and say that it's impossible.

[wyoguy]

Quote by: Tycoon A lack of fundamental scientific proof strengthens your faith in God? There is absolutely no proof whatsoever in God. You put your trust blindly in faith of a 2,000 year old book.

I Corinthians 2:13-16

These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. For “who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.

[Jack]

I just love how the Bible has an escape clause to excuse believers any time they get challenged with hard questions.

[gela]

so wheres the author and name of it? And it was the statement of its a serious Christian issue I was dismissing as a lie.

As halo pointed out I had already posted it by the time you had accused my of lieing.

I even have a scanned page of the circumsision quote.

Enough proof for you?

[Anmon]

Quote by: Halofan48 o wait, she already posted it: Gela's post

lol this is a book from fifty years ago with one paragraph recommending female circumcision if the tissue is inflamed constantly, yeah I admit thats going a bit far, but its hardly a serious modern day Christian issue as was pointed out.
wins.

[Tycoon]

I Corinthians 2:13-16 These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. For “who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.

That isn't even proof, it's another example of Christianity's manipulation, telling you that you are spiritual and therefore correct. Quoting bible isn't proof of the bible's truth.

[Tycoon]

lol this is a book from fifty years ago with one paragraph recommending female circumcision if the tissue is inflamed constantly, yeah I admit thats going a bit far, but its hardly a serious modern day Christian issue as was pointed out.

Christianity is a book from two-thousand years ago and it's full of suggestions that go too far, such as the inumerable suggestions of punishing small sins by stoning the sinner.

*Debate won*

[Charlatan]

A six day creation? Well if all these creatures just popped into existence, then they would have had no oxygen to breathe, as the trees only had one day to make oxygen for them. Ozone gets formed by gasses, and if there was no other gas by hydrogen in the world, then the trees would have died, before an ozone was formed keeping all the needed sensitively measured gasses in place.

How can you make the world in six days? Why are there fossils of things that predate those six days? Why are there sea shells ontop of mountains? How did Noah keep the animals from eating each other? He kept them in cages. To build an ark the size needed to keep all species of animal inside for a year or whatever would have taken eight men a lifetime of work, and thorgouh understanding of how to build too. How thick needed the ark to be to keep the wieght from maginfying on a certain spot and mkaing the ark break in two? How thick does it need to be to hold an elephant, a rhino, and a giraffe? How did birds cross the atlantic to find a spot in the ark, and what did they eat while they waited? How does a naitve slug from Britain get to the ark, it would have dried up on the way over there, and would have taken a lifetime to get there or longer, and there are many species of slugs I am sure.

What goes into making a person? How do you make all the words necessary for speach just appear in a person's mind? How do you put aside years of required evolution just for a dog to know how to live? How do you make disease just appear out of nowhere, when we have already found germs to be evolutionary too, even today they change at a rate in makeup and get stronger all the time, so did God make germs too to kill us? Why are there no tales of leprosy in the Garden of eden, that surely evolved from a host, and something as complex as that doesn't grow up over thirty years. So I feel it is safe to say that everything evolved from the said hydrogen masses, and not created by the hand of God.

[gela]

lol this is a book from fifty years ago with one paragraph recommending female circumcision if the tissue is inflamed constantly, yeah I admit thats going a bit far, but its hardly a serious modern day Christian issue as was pointed out. wins.

Female circumsision was deemed acceptable - and even necessary - by a christian. This book was given to adolesent girls, when their independent beliefs about the world are being shaped. Theres a good chance that women today believe what this book says.

It wasn't about inflamation. It was about an itch which encouraged masturbation. They circumsised girls to stop them masturbating.

When it happened is irrevelent.
As tyc pointed out, your bible is 2000 years old.