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Anmon · Apr 22, 2008, 03:17 pm

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Worked for my sons. They didn't go into a fit of depression over it. That's life. Of course there's always cremation. Kinda like hell...all that burning.

Don't be surprised if they rebel against the nihilism and black negativity of this some day, and look for better answers than that.

rez · Apr 22, 2008, 03:19 pm

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And did it ever occur to you, that you atheists mighten have all the answers either?
Your kid asks you, what happens when I die, sorry kid you rot!
Yeah great inspiring stuff.

Anmon, how old are you? You don't know there are many ways to explain negative stuff in a positive way? Do you tell your boss that something he did was bad by saying "This fucking sucks, this is complete trash" or do you offer constructive criticism and a more positive approach to change what you think is trash.

Maryjane · Apr 22, 2008, 03:23 pm

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Don't be surprised if they rebel against the nihilism and black negativity of this some day, and look for better answers than that.

Best for you not to speak about things you know nothing about. My boys and I have discussions all the time about what you consider darkness and what we consider reality.

Besides, what kind of parent do you think I am? If they make a choice to see things in a different way...it's their choice.

Anmon · Apr 22, 2008, 03:28 pm

lovely, so you repeat over and over that once they die thats it?
How depressing and morbid for them.

Maryjane · Apr 22, 2008, 03:33 pm

Why should I have to repeat it over and over?
It may be depressing for you? We live with it every day. We aren't depressed people. Don't assume we are.

Perhaps I should start an "Ask an Atheist Widow" thread...we seem to have gone off topic. (or have we? )

tommy5x · Apr 22, 2008, 04:25 pm

I've not a clue, however first you need to figure out if she's a traditionalist/literalist.

Anmon, Atheists, as far as I'm concerned are similar to blind Theists in aty least one sense. They both deal in extremes of posibility. The only reason that people attack (I would say, rather, question) Christianity is because a lot of us are members of Western society, and as such it's most familiar to us.

When it comes to children, I think that once they're old enough to understand, their answers to questions should not be definates, but possibilities for them to consider, and the differentiation should be made. Not to do so, is to restrict your child to your belief system until they're considerably older.

Anmon · Apr 22, 2008, 05:58 pm

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=Maryjane;499135]Why should I have to repeat it over and over?
It may be depressing for you? We live with it every day. We aren't depressed people. Don't assume we are.

You said you talk about it all the time, thats repeating.
What do you live with every day? Your not dead, so how can you say you live with that nihilistic concept?

I think your boys will sometime go the other way, and look for a more positive and rewarding after death concept.

Anmon · Apr 22, 2008, 06:03 pm

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Anmon, Atheists, as far as I'm concerned are similar to blind Theists in aty least one sense. They both deal in extremes of posibility. The only reason that people attack (I would say, rather, question) Christianity is because a lot of us are members of Western society, and as such it's most familiar to us.

Also a lot of people want a guilt free life, and not have to feel like they are to be held account for anything, thats the biggest attraction of Atheism.

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When it comes to children, I think that once they're old enough to understand, their answers to questions should not be definates, but possibilities for them to consider, and the differentiation should be made. Not to do so, is to restrict your child to your belief system until they're considerably older.

Of course, but if they see you as a good person, with good qualitys they will respect your views more.

Tycoon · Apr 22, 2008, 06:15 pm

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Also a lot of people want a guilt free life, and not have to feel like they are to be held account for anything, thats the biggest attraction of Atheism.

And you think that is a bigger attraction than the supposed answer to life and everything that Christianity tries to provide? Christianity is the lifestyle full of manipulation, not atheism.

ShadowFox · Apr 22, 2008, 06:17 pm

Also, Christianity draws people throw heaven and hell. Believe in christ and you live in paradise. Don't believe you burn in hell and torment, etc.

Anmon · Apr 22, 2008, 06:21 pm

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And you think that is a bigger attraction than the supposed answer to life and everything that Christianity tries to provide? Christianity is the lifestyle full of manipulation, not atheism.

Why no ones forcing you to be a Christian, if you don't like it, then just get out.

Anmon · Apr 22, 2008, 06:22 pm

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Also, Christianity draws people throw heaven and hell. Believe in christ and you live in paradise. Don't believe you burn in hell and torment, etc.

No I think if your a decent person, you will go to Heaven regardless of whether your Christian or not.

**Matt W** · Apr 22, 2008, 06:29 pm

How about you stop derailing threads, Anmon? I've told you before - if you're not interested in the topic, don't post. If you want to make your own thread on attacks on Christianity, you are more than welcome to do so. In the meanwhile, stay on-topic.

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Anmon · Apr 22, 2008, 06:32 pm

Will_00 · Apr 22, 2008, 06:32 pm

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Also, is there anything in there about swearing? And I mean swear words that don't involve the lord's name or whatever.

"But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips." Colossians 3:8

"But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne;" Matthew 5:34-38

Tycoon · Apr 22, 2008, 06:38 pm

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Why no ones forcing you to be a Christian, if you don't like it, then just get out.

You make no sense. I wasn't saying anything about myself as a Christian, I was posting a response to your post about the supposed attraction of atheism.

And my point still stands. Christianity is the lifestyle of manipulation. Atheism isn't.

Will_00 · Apr 22, 2008, 06:40 pm

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And my point still stands. Christianity is the lifestyle of manipulation. Atheism isn't.

How so?

ShadowFox · Apr 22, 2008, 06:43 pm

well, in Christianity, they'll often say "believe this or you'll go to hell!" or something along those lines in order to keep you from questioning them. In atheism, we can't threaten or entice with promises of happiness or torment for all eternity.

Tycoon · Apr 22, 2008, 06:44 pm

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How so?

Christianity (and all theism for that matter) only attracts followers because it offers an answer to questions that have no answers. It is in our nature to question existance, and Christianity takes advantage of that nature.

As Halofan48 points out Christianity offers strong enticements and also strong warnings of divine retribution. Atheism doesn't do that.

Will_00 · Apr 22, 2008, 06:47 pm

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Christianity (and all theism for that matter) only attracts followers because it offers an answer to questions that have no answers. It is in our nature to question existance, and Christianity takes advantage of that nature.

As Halofan48 points out Christianity offers strong enticements and also strong warnings of divine retribution. Atheism doesn't do that.

Yet, it is not even an answer. It is an attempt to disproove God's Existence, which is impossible.

Apr 22, 2008, 03:33 pm	#25 (permalink) (top)
Maryjane Amused Location: Mid Atlantic Posts: 1,249	Why should I have to repeat it over and over? It may be depressing for you? We live with it every day. We aren't depressed people. Don't assume we are. Perhaps I should start an "Ask an Atheist Widow" thread...we seem to have gone off topic. (or have we? ) That you may retain your self-respect, it is better to displease the people by doing what you know is right, than to temporarily please them by doing what you know is wrong. W. J. H. Boetcker

Apr 22, 2008, 04:25 pm	#26 (permalink) (top)
tommy5x Erudite Location: England Posts: 133	I've not a clue, however first you need to figure out if she's a traditionalist/literalist. Anmon, Atheists, as far as I'm concerned are similar to blind Theists in aty least one sense. They both deal in extremes of posibility. The only reason that people attack (I would say, rather, question) Christianity is because a lot of us are members of Western society, and as such it's most familiar to us. When it comes to children, I think that once they're old enough to understand, their answers to questions should not be definates, but possibilities for them to consider, and the differentiation should be made. Not to do so, is to restrict your child to your belief system until they're considerably older. When the time comes, that no more can be said, say no more.

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ShadowFox formerly Halofan48 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,619	Also, Christianity draws people throw heaven and hell. Believe in christ and you live in paradise. Don't believe you burn in hell and torment, etc. Knowledge is power, use it well. Don't fear the unknown, seek to understand it Formerly Halofan48 Fun game!!!

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Apr 22, 2008, 06:43 pm	#38 (permalink) (top)
ShadowFox formerly Halofan48 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,619	well, in Christianity, they'll often say "believe this or you'll go to hell!" or something along those lines in order to keep you from questioning them. In atheism, we can't threaten or entice with promises of happiness or torment for all eternity. Knowledge is power, use it well. Don't fear the unknown, seek to understand it Formerly Halofan48 Fun game!!!

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Anmon BANNED Location: between the good and the bad Posts: 1,330	lovely, so you repeat over and over that once they die thats it? How depressing and morbid for them.