The Twilight Series

[ShadowFox]

I didn't plan to take that chainsaw, it was taken in a rush of blood to the head, in response to an act of injustice. I took it out of rage, and the guy let me go with it, because he knew it wasn't worth being put in hospital over, which I could have done to him very easily. And he was bigger than me.

Um, in this country, threatening someone with a chainsaw would land you right in prison. You are threatening to take another person's life.

Its called respect not arse kissing as you put it, so grow up.

Ok, lets all stop with these immature little comments. This is a debate forum. Let's keep it civil. Otherwise, don't debate.

[Winter wind]

Quote by: anmon Its placing them as important, as good when their not, thats evil.

So placing nonexistant or unimportant things as importent is evil?

What about the Narnia series (nonexistant)? What about Ulysses (unimportant)?

As for making evil things good...Vampires, one don't exist so they aren't evil or good, two why do vampires have to evil? Where in the Bible does it say vampires are evil? Power isn't good or evil, use of power is what makes something good or evil.

[Anmon]

Nicely twisted, I said placing evil things as important, not non existant.
Since vampires don't exist, you may have trouble finding them written about in the bible.

[Anmon]

Quote by: Winter wind Nice! This is a logical argument.

No I'm just mentioning them, thats not promoting them, advocating for them.

[Anmon]

Quote by: Halofan48 Um, in this country, threatening someone with a chainsaw would land you right in prison. You are threatening to take another person's life.

I didn't threaten anyone with a chainsaw, or to take their life.
So stop making up stuff that never happened.

[Ken Carman]

Quote by: Halofan48 I'll protect u Morality! *pulls out shield*

But will morality protect me, or just run off with the first guy who comes along?

I think this provide evidence that if we post a topic we'd best provide background when posting the first thread if we really wish to discuss said topic. But... tis fun to have fun with it anyway.

[Ken Carman]

Quote by: Maryjane Here's the movie synopsis: Looks like an unconventional love story to me. Wonder if there will be protests like there were for Harry Potter and The Golden Compass? Twilight (2008/I) - Synopsis

From reading this, at first glance, it seems the difference here is between entertainment and belief. If someone is entertained by obvious fiction; and doesn't start worshiping vampires or men who become wolves ...then evil? (Why is it always MEN do that? Must be female chauvinists are responsible! Wait... the authors are mostly men. I'm so damn con-fuse-ed now!) Give me a break. While I recall limits on what one can worship, and what one can do... I don't recall any quotes where God says one can't imagine: except when it comes to sex and longing for what others own. I admit, I always found even that quite odd: and probably inserted by men into God's mouth. (I'm chuckling now at my own unintended perv-istic words.) Imagination is a great way to keep one from doing wrong.

[ShadowFox]

I didn't threaten anyone with a chainsaw, or to take their life. So stop making up stuff that never happened.

I made the assumption you would of assaulted him with the chainsaw if he tried to stop you, since you said you'd put him in the hospital. Which is still against the law by the way even without a chainsaw.
This is off topic so i'll stop.

[Winter wind]

Quote by: anmon Nicely twisted, I said placing evil things as important, not non existant. Since vampires don't exist, you may have trouble finding them written about in the bible.

If they don't exist. How can you say for sure they are evil?

[Maryjane]

Power isn't good or evil, use of power is what makes something good or evil.

I'd have to say it's "abuse" of power that makes it evil.

[Jack]

Since vampires don't exist, you may have trouble finding them written about in the bible.

If they don't exist. How can you say for sure they are evil?

Well, I know my pet unicorn isn't evil.

[Anmon]

Quote by: Winter wind If they don't exist. How can you say for sure they are evil?

Doesnt matter, if people idolise it for its evil then thats enough.

[Ken Carman]

Quote by: Maryjane I'd have to say it's "abuse" of power that makes it evil.

Usually that's true, but one's use of power can have evil results even with the best of intent.

[Ken Carman]

Quote by: Jack Well, I know my pet unicorn isn't evil.

Given some folk's tendency to find all things sexual as evil, how do you know? He is a horny little devil, right?

[Anmon]

Quote by: Halofan48 I made the assumption you would of assaulted him with the chainsaw if he tried to stop you, since you said you'd put him in the hospital. Which is still against the law by the way even without a chainsaw.

No that would possibly damage the chainsaw, I would have put it down if I thought he was about to attack me.
I suppose you think I would have started it up and attacked him with it, is that what you meant by assaulting him with it?
lol
The law doesn't protect me in that situation because it was a handshake agreement, which in the end showed the man had little worth.
So I had to do things my way.

[Ken Carman]

Never mind, I deleted this one: nothing here for you to see. Couldn't find the beginning of the post I was commenting on.

Didn't we use to have a "delete post" feature at Volconvo?

[Anmon]

If I understand your post correctly, and I'm not sure I do by any means, I pretty sure you're wrong. A while back I remember two guys had an agreement that one would kill the other and then eat him. I'm serious, and to make it worse they agreed to start in a certain manner so they could eat a certain private part first: together. (Yes, they were seriously sick in the head.) The agreement they made didn't matter; legally: he still went to jail. (Who wants someone like that around? I'm not sure it's right to pawn him off on most prisoners. Now Charlie Manson, for example, maybe.) Now, I've either addressed your point or grossed everyone out for no damn good reason. Yes, it's sick. Excuse me, I suddenly feel ill.

Your comparing me taking a chainsaw to two guys eating one of their penis?

[Winter wind]

Quote by: jack Well, I know my pet unicorn isn't evil.

That's what you think

Quote by: anmon Doesnt matter, if people idolise it for its evil then thats enough.

The twilight series doesn't idolise vampires for it's evil quality. It's a fight against evil vampires. Not the kind, flower loving vampires.

[Anmon]

=Winter wind;501076] The twilight series doesn't idolise vampires for it's evil quality. It's a fight against evil vampires. Not the kind, flower loving vampires..

It presents evil as a force for good as well, when its not, like white witches and supposedly good warlocks fighting eveil.
Often you see these characters change sides and back again.
Like Buffy and other dark shows.

[Winter wind]

Quote by: anmon It presents evil as a force for good as well, when its not, like white witches and supposedly good warlocks fighting eveil. Often you see these characters change sides and back again. Like Buffy and other dark shows.

That's not evil. That's just crappy writing.

It's an attempt at showing how imperfect people are. There is a good side and a bad side though and it glorifies the good side.

As for white witches and warlocks fighting evil. There is no such thing as a witch. A fiction writer can create a premise for a witch or warlock any way he or she likes. The writer doesn't have to make them evil or good because they don't exist.

But if you don't like characters switching sides, don't watch Lost, James Bond, Alias, or half of cable shows. (definitely don't watch Desperate Housewives.)