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La Mangra · Apr 18, 2008, 06:51 pm

Can it be that god is wise and pitiless ?

HelioPrime · Apr 18, 2008, 08:48 pm

Depends on if you have a world view that includes an afterlife or just life on earth.

If you believe in the beyond, then any amount of suffering on earth pales in comparison to an eternal reward, so then no, suffering doesn't show an unloving God.

If you believe in just life on earth then you probably don't believe in God anyways, so any suffering you'll see as further evidence God isn't loving and even if he was real you wouldn't want to go to his heaven.

Donkey Sage · Apr 18, 2008, 09:20 pm

To blame God for suffering on Earth surely implies you believe in God.
Humans are not capable of 'knowing' that which they cannot experience.

Anmon · Apr 18, 2008, 11:07 pm

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To blame God for suffering on Earth surely implies you believe in God.
Humans are not capable of 'knowing' that which they cannot experience.

I think there saying if God existed there would be no suffering.

**Jack** · Apr 19, 2008, 12:37 am

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Can it be that god is wise and pitiless ?

Is pity a result of wisdom? Must one be wise to be compassionate?

Donkey Sage · Apr 19, 2008, 12:50 am

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Is pity a result of wisdom? Must one be wise to be compassionate?

I'd say the wise are more aware of other peoples feelings, while the ignorant are less aware under certain circumstances.

**Jack** · Apr 19, 2008, 01:01 am

Then perhaps it's the compassion that imbues wisdom?

Donkey Sage · Apr 19, 2008, 01:05 am

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Then perhaps it's the compassion that imbues wisdom?

Perhaps... something to think about right there.

Anmon · Apr 19, 2008, 01:14 am

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Then perhaps it's the compassion that imbues wisdom?

Exactly.

La Mangra · Apr 19, 2008, 09:40 am

Mother Teresa thought that she was wise, god thought that he was wise

Were both of them wise or one of them wasn't wise ?

Anmon · Apr 19, 2008, 09:48 am

Why would one of them not be wise?

**Jack** · Apr 19, 2008, 10:20 am

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Mother Teresa thought that she was wise, god thought that he was wise

Were both of them wise or one of them wasn't wise ?

Wisdom is a matter of degree and there's no standard. Some wise people are wiser than others. Some wise people appear to be fools to those more wise. There's no way to answer your question honestly.

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HelioPrime Hucking Fuskies Location: Conn Posts: 2,349	Depends on if you have a world view that includes an afterlife or just life on earth. If you believe in the beyond, then any amount of suffering on earth pales in comparison to an eternal reward, so then no, suffering doesn't show an unloving God. If you believe in just life on earth then you probably don't believe in God anyways, so any suffering you'll see as further evidence God isn't loving and even if he was real you wouldn't want to go to his heaven. What do you say to an atheist who sneezes? Yourdeadthatsit! - Dane Cook

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Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 13,223	Then perhaps it's the compassion that imbues wisdom? The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

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Donkey Sage Wise Ass Posts: 28	To blame God for suffering on Earth surely implies you believe in God. Humans are not capable of 'knowing' that which they cannot experience.

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La Mangra Igneous Magma Posts: 192	Mother Teresa thought that she was wise, god thought that he was wise Were both of them wise or one of them wasn't wise ?

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