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Old Apr 23, 2008, 04:40 pm   #141 (permalink) (top)
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Why do I always have to be the heretic?

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I'm not about to tell you what to think about the Bible. Perceive it as you will. And I will do the same.

To me, a non-believer, the Bible is a book. It's an ancient text, but not the most ancient. It's an artifact of an earlier time. It's a record, mostly fictional, of the development of the world as understood by primitive and unlearned people. It has no impact on my life.

I like books. I'm an avid reader as well as being a writer. But I don't worship books, I don't consider them divine or divinely inspired. I certainly wouldn't consider defending a book against negative opinions with anything more than my personal counter-opinion. I am also under no obligation to share anyone else's opinion of a book.

Love the Bible if you wish. But don't demand or expect others to necessarily share your devotion.
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Back to my question.
Jews vs. Christianity < === > conflict.
Is that correct ?

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There is nobody left.
Then, do not complain, please :-)
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Old Apr 23, 2008, 07:47 pm   #142 (permalink) (top)
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Your circular reasoning is unconvincing, as is your concept of truth. Perhaps you can offer some rebuttal beyond repetitive pronouncement.
That is too bad. The Absolute Truth completely overthrows the hum imperfect version.

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Blasphemer! Everybody know freethinking is bad for faith. Critical thinking could lead peoples to see the truth! Can you imagine such a disaster? 'Could be the end of organized religions, the religious right screwing up elections and the end of conservative ideas!
Being "open-minded" is simply harmful - dangerous. Those who are True Christians NEED to be close-minded.

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I'm looking at the Merriam-Webster dictionary.

This is what religion is:

(1): the service and worship of God... (2): commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance

Let me phrase this as clearly as I possibly can.

Do you serve and worship God? Do you commit/devote yourself to the Christian faith and it's practices?

If so, then you believe in a religion.

If you are attempting to say....
It is still according to the world.

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If you mean the Bible, then point out the verse.
It may be the "Truth", but we need to see how you came to this conclusion.
You can simply look at the Bible in a general view and find that out.


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Old Apr 23, 2008, 07:53 pm   #143 (permalink) (top)
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That is too bad. The Absolute Truth completely overthrows the hum imperfect version.
Prove the bible is true. If you can't prove it then don't use the bible's supposed "absolute truth" to debate.
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Being "open-minded" is simply harmful - dangerous. Those who are True Christians NEED to be close-minded.
My God, you're right! They might actually see how wrong Christianity is and change their minds!
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You can simply look at the Bible in a general view and find that out.
Uuum, no, you can't. There are mountains of evidence against the world being created in six days. There goes your "absolute truth".


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Old Apr 23, 2008, 07:58 pm   #144 (permalink) (top)
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Prove the bible is true. If you can't prove it then don't use the bible's supposed "absolute truth" to debate.
That is too bad. Absolute Belief and Truth Always is True.

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My God, you're right! They might actually see how wrong Christianity is and change their minds!
That is ridiculolous! Obviously people are going to attempt to make you disbelieve it.

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Uuum, no, you can't. There are mountains of evidence against the world being created in six days. There goes your "absolute truth".
That is too bad. It doesn't even need to make imperfect, human, "sense."


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Old Apr 23, 2008, 08:01 pm   #145 (permalink) (top)
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Debates require evidence, Wii_00. I suggest you start backing up your opinion.


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Old Apr 23, 2008, 08:03 pm   #146 (permalink) (top)
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That is too bad. Absolute Belief and Truth Always is True.
You can beleive in absolute truth all you like, but unless you have anything worthwhile to debate then stop wasting our time.
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That is ridiculolous! Obviously people are going to attempt to make you disbelieve it.
It's foolish not to accept the fact that you might be wrong, and the key to peace and prosperity is developing an open mind, not a closed mind.
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That is too bad. It doesn't even need to make imperfect, human, "sense."
You're right, after all, the bible was only written by humans. How ridiculous to think it might be a human idea.


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Old Apr 23, 2008, 08:07 pm   #147 (permalink) (top)
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I agree with the op.


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Old Apr 23, 2008, 08:07 pm   #148 (permalink) (top)
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You can beleive in absolute truth all you like, but unless you have anything worthwhile to debate then stop wasting our time.
Yet, again your "evidence" is false and faulty.

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It's foolish not to accept the fact that you might be wrong, and the key to peace and prosperity is developing an open mind, not a closed mind.
This is simply Ridiculous! The state of being "opne-minded" is an absence of belief.

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You're right, after all, the bible was only written by humans. How ridiculous to think it might be a human idea.
No! It was written through humans. It Is The Word of God.


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Old Apr 23, 2008, 08:10 pm   #149 (permalink) (top)
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Yet, again your "evidence" is false and faulty.
It isn't simply because you and the bible say so, for the bible isn't the absolute truth in all of our eyes!
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This is simply Ridiculous! The state of being "opne-minded" is an absence of belief.
No, being open-minded is a state where you accept the possibility that your beleifs may be wrong.
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No! It was written through humans. It Is The Word of God.
Nevertheless, it was written in human words by human hands. It is meant to make sense to humans, and it doesn't. Why did your God write it if not for it to make sense to us?


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Old Apr 23, 2008, 10:23 pm   #150 (permalink) (top)
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Yet, again your "evidence" is false and faulty.
And, yet again, your evidence is non-existent. Your claim of our "faulty" evidence is backed by no evidence, thereby making it far from valid.

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This is simply Ridiculous! The state of being "opne-minded" is an absence of belief.
I don't know about opne-minded, but open minded simply means being receptive to new ideas, unprejudiced, unbigoted and impartial. By calling yourself close-minded, you are stating that you are intolerant of the beliefs and opinions of others and stubbornly unreceptive to new ideas. Is that your position? That you shouldn't be open to new ideas? Mind you that open or close minded has nothing to do with the belief in dieties. A person that still holds bigoted, prejudiced beliefs toward african americans held in the past, for example, would be considered close-minded. You state that every Christian should be thus? Well, add that to the list of reasons I am not.

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No! It was written through humans. It Is The Word of God.
Is that all you are proficient at? Spouting unsupported claims? Back up your last statement with any sort of evidence that the rest of us can examine for ourselves. See, that's how debates work. You sitting there constantly uttering "nuh-uhh" is childish.


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Old Apr 23, 2008, 11:41 pm   #151 (permalink) (top)
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Being "open-minded" is simply harmful - dangerous. Those who are True Christians NEED to be close-minded.
Thanks for that frank admission. You're still not debating as you've provided none of the reasoning behind your opinion, but just the same, you've provided more evidence that Christianity is based in part on fear, in the is case fear of contrary ideas.


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Old Apr 23, 2008, 11:49 pm   #152 (permalink) (top)
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Yet, again your "evidence" is false and faulty.
And the award for most hypocritical comment goes too...


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Old Apr 24, 2008, 02:49 am   #153 (permalink) (top)
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It is still according to the world.
It is according to the world, but as the Bible never defines what religion is, I don't think that's a big deal.

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You can simply look at the Bible in a general view and find that out.
oh no you don't. You don't get to say that.
You are a Christian, so you can't just say "well it's in the Bible. Where? don't ask me because I've never read it myself."
Please, tell me where I can find your views in the Bible.

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Being "open-minded" is simply harmful - dangerous. Those who are True Christians NEED to be close-minded.
Said the people who said the sun revolved around the earth.

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And the award for most hypocritical comment goes too...
This is becoming depressing for me.


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Old Apr 24, 2008, 03:05 am   #154 (permalink) (top)
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No! It was written through humans. It Is The Word of God.
Lmao.


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Old Apr 24, 2008, 06:12 am   #155 (permalink) (top)
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Lmao.
Hence why I'm depressed.


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Old Apr 25, 2008, 05:44 pm   #156 (permalink) (top)
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It isn't simply because you and the bible say so, for the bible isn't the absolute truth in all of our eyes!
That is too bad. And atheism is not "true" in all of our eyes.

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No, being open-minded is a state where you accept the possibility that your beleifs may be wrong.
But it is not possible.

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Nevertheless, it was written in human words by human hands. It is meant to make sense to humans, and it doesn't. Why did your God write it if not for it to make sense to us?
It is BY GOD.


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Old Apr 25, 2008, 06:02 pm   #157 (permalink) (top)
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Since you're on a debate site, perhaps you'd care to actually debate and not just post one-line objections?


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Old Apr 25, 2008, 06:03 pm   #158 (permalink) (top)
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Since you're on a debate site, perhaps you'd care to actually debate and not just post one-line objections?
My debates are Infinitely True, though. You cannot "remove" or even slightly make the Absolute Truth false.


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Old Apr 25, 2008, 06:18 pm   #159 (permalink) (top)
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You've given no reason to suppose anything you say is more than your opinion. One-liners are not debate. You are contributing nothing of substance to the thread.


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Old Apr 25, 2008, 06:28 pm   #160 (permalink) (top)
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You've given no reason to suppose anything you say is more than your opinion. One-liners are not debate. You are contributing nothing of substance to the thread.
What do you want me to say.


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