Would God dam America as a nation?

[Technosoul]

If God were to pass judgement on America as a nation would He be more likely to give us a passing grade or not?

Would or high standards of morality be highly praised by a honest God, or would we be dammed and highly repremanded for our immorality?

[Jack]

Are we talking about the Old Testament god or the god of the New (and improved) Testament? They seem to describe two different gods. Or are we debating another god altogether?

[lindsay7]

I think the United States used to be so blessed by God. But now it's turned away from what made it so great - the American Constitution.

Now you have an ever expanding, over-spending, corrupt government. Trillions of dollars in debt. Globalization taking away so many American jobs. The experts predicting a great economic recession. War, the Patriot Act eroding your freedoms...

I don't know if God has damned the United States for it's mistakes. I hope not, I hope your country can turn it all around.

[phoenix_fire]

It doesn't really go down like that anymore. But I think your question is really: is America more (theologically) good than bad? Am I right? Bearing in mind that God is stricter on those that should know better about what His Word says:

Pwnt column
abortion
death penalty
sexual perversions
socioeconomic inequality
megachurches
Fred Phelps
rampant materialism
blasphemy, blasphemy, blasphemy
idolatry
gluttony
godlessness
prosperity gospel
the cult of liberalism
Christian elitism
hypocrisy
the persecution of Christian free expression
moral relativism
90% of television ("Christian" programming included)
Benny Hinn
the disgustingly rich



Win column
ability to overcome and make amends for past sins
social concern for other nations
recognizing the equality of all people
people who stand against stuff in the other column
the fact that many elected leaders seek God's guidance
charity
the formalized allowance for dissent
the work of God's people


Really, this age is more about God's people going into places that are hostile in one way or another and being the salt and light. He does this to try to save as many as possible before the final judgment. Naturally, the question as to "more good" or "more evil" presumes that the merit system works with God. It doesn't. All things are "more evil", even if they're a little "more good" than their neighbors. But that's not the point. The point lies with the individual, no matter what country he/she lives in.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Isherwood Are we talking about the Old Testament god or the god of the New (and improved) Testament? They seem to describe two different gods. Or are we debating another god altogether?

I am asking people to vote based on what their church views as being a standard of morality, or their religion. If you are not a member of a church then vote relative to how you think the Bible is discribing God's commandments, or the teachings of those people mentioned in the Bible relative to what is concidered to be good morality.

The pupose of the poll is to get an over-all opinon rather then to limit that opinon to just one church or temple.

[Muckraker]

If god plans on unleashing another flood on the world then I suppose it is good if he "dams" America.

It'll be even better if he specifically "dams" the "dikes" ...

[Fangrim]

Quote by: Technosoul If God were to pass judgement on America as a nation would He be more likely to give us a passing grade or not? Would or high standards of morality be highly praised by a honest God, or would we be dammed and highly repremanded for our immorality?

Would God dam America as a nation?

Yes, because God loves America so, just like he loved Noah. After all, if or when he floods the world again (don't believe those rainbow stories), he'd want to make sure a BIG dam was in place to protect us.
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(OK, I just had to do it, sorry. But you did spell it that way).


EDIT: Darnit muckraker. didn't see your post. Ah well, we'll share the glory.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Muckraker If god plans on unleashing another flood on the world then I suppose it is good if he "dams" America. It'll be even better if he specifically "dams" the "dikes" ...

Hmm?, Dikes on motor bikes or the other kind?

[Compugasm]

Quote by: phoenix_fire Pwnt column abortion death penalty..

You forgot not recycling.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Fangrim Would God dam America as a nation? Yes, because God loves America so, just like he loved Noah. After all, if or when he floods the world again (don't believe those rainbow stories), he'd want to make sure a BIG dam was in place to protect us. ... (OK, I just had to do it, sorry. But you did spell it that way). EDIT: Darnit muckraker. didn't see your post. Ah well, we'll share the glory.

Right now we are having record breaking floods in parts of the USA, so i am so confident that dam damm you referred too.

[Technosoul]

Readers please pay no attention to all our joking around. Humor is healthy for us all.

Also I had a reason for posting this poll that you should know about.

Obama came under attack because his preacher said that God would not bless America, he would dam America.

So I thought I would take a poll to find out if other churches hold that same viewpoint or not.

This could have been an important poll for politcal reasons had enough people responded.

[Compugasm]

Quote by: Technosoul Obama came under attack because his preacher said that God would not bless America, he would dam America.

Oh, I see. God obviously hates black people too, and gay-black-americans are SOL. Can someone clarify if being dammed has cumulative or exponent effects? What a preposterous thing for a preecher to say.

[Flip Jackson]

Well, we most certainly wouldn`t be praised for morality as a whole. Morality has taken a dive the world over in the last 100 years.

Though we also wouldn`t be condemned as a whole. What kind of God would condemn an entire country for the errors of the majority? Methinks God is no politician, so "majority rule" means little to His judgements.

God only destroys all when all are bad.

[Compugasm]

[forloveofnation]

Quote by: Technosoul If God were to pass judgement on America as a nation would He be more likely to give us a passing grade or not? Would or high standards of morality be highly praised by a honest God, or would we be dammed and highly repremanded for our immorality?

I would have to think that to see this idea,... one would have to look at the big picture. Seeing America in the grand shemematic of things would be of serious use.

I see America as almost the third testament of the Bible. It is full of God. Full of curruption, killing, love, greed, and a people who lose sight of God and have to be "awakened". A nation that strives to keep in touch with God, but the curruption within it stinks to high heaven.

America is a one and only kind of place when you view it from the perspective of world history in the 16 and 17 hundreds. God used this place (America) to continue the thread of God-force in the history of humanity. Thisngs like slavery and the Indian takeover and gov't corruption,.... these things are the same kinds of things that are with us today.

The corruption is from people who have massive greed and allow it to destroy their judgment. Kind of like today with the Constitution,... where people who want more and more and more have destroyed the fabric of the nation.

And part of that destruction is about wiping out the knowledge of what America is and how she came about in the first place,... within the dynamic realities of the times it happened. And what good she has brought to Earth in her awakening. "My people parish for lack of knowledge" (Hosea 4:6)

I would think this is more of a wake up call to bible based Americans, than something to look at and wonder if God is mad or not,...

I would say that anytime corruption wins out over the lack of motivation and stamps out knowledge and the kind of enlightenment that it takes to make a more LIGHT filled world and a better life for people,... then yeah,... God is pissed.

But the real question is this: Is God pissed cause "we the people" do nothing and stand by idle,... or is God pissed cause the forces that would take the nation of America from the consciousness of Earth are actually gaining and the people who still hold the knowledge of God tied to America are losing this nation????

I would think this is the real question


Our constitution is one of pure enlightenment,... the ideas and ideals are written into it as something that is almost impossible to ruin,... In order to ruin something like that you have to wipe out the kowledge it is all based on and then slowly reinterpret it. It is very difficult to dupe the "enlightened"... yet we are being duped. What does this say?

there is a site with more of this by the same name as this username,... just add the usual com's and w's to see it....

[Cephus]

Pointless question because there's no rational reason to think that God exists. If you're going to ask this question, why not ask what Harry Potter would think too? It makes the same amount of difference.

[LadiesMan217]

I don't know if he would damn us but I can't imagine he would praise us either.

[phoenix_fire]

Quote by: Cephus Pointless question because there's no rational reason to think that God exists. If you're going to ask this question, why not ask what Harry Potter would think too? It makes the same amount of difference.

Thank you for that same old red herring.

[Clarence]

Quote by: Flip Jackson Well, we most certainly wouldn`t be praised for morality as a whole. Morality has taken a dive the world over in the last 100 years. Though we also wouldn`t be condemned as a whole. What kind of God would condemn an entire country for the errors of the majority? Methinks God is no politician, so "majority rule" means little to His judgements.

second that.

[Marilyn Monroe]

I'd say He'd praise us because overall we're pretty good. Can't expect perfection cause we ain't in heaven yet.