Homosexuality in the View of a Christian

[Anmon]

Quote by: Marilyn Monroe MHO is the bible was meant to be an interesting guidebook. You get some of the basics from it

It is the word of God.

[Winter wind]

Quote by: anmon It is the word of God.

didn't use the perfect writing tools though...

[HelioPrime]

Quote by: Winter wind didn't use the perfect writing tools though...

If things were perfect what would be the point of judgement or commandments. Things clearly were not meant to be perfect.

[Marilyn Monroe]

Quote by: Anmon It is the word of God.

Would God not write an interesting guidebook? I think He'd make it mysterious and hard to understand as well. Too easy isn't His style.

[Marilyn Monroe]

Quote by: Winter wind didn't use the perfect writing tools though...

The people who did the writing had to be the smarter folks of that time period. It's all in what you have to work with. We could make up all sorts of what He could have done, but He didn't, so we can only go by what we've got to work with. This may very well be perfect in God's eyes, and lucky for us that He might not be super nit-picky.

I get your point though, loud and clear. The translating had to be a bitch. I'd think a lot may have gotten lost, but of course God could have made it all perfect if He had wanted to. Guess we'll just have to wait and see if there are any answers.

I really hope there is something more than this cause I haven't used my time here very wisely.

[Anmon]

Quote by: Winter wind didn't use the perfect writing tools though...

what do you mean?

[Anmon]

Quote by: Marilyn Monroe Would God not write an interesting guidebook? I think He'd make it mysterious and hard to understand as well. Too easy isn't His style.

thats because were not easy either.

[Rainbow]

Quote by: Winter wind come on. This is a debate site. No comment isn't enough. Prove tommy wrong so I can have my chance...

You think that I need to address the core for a child upbringing processs, (along with its outcomes) since some guys may or may not be familiar with it ???
Is that really so hard to understand that parents and/or guardians play the fundamental role in creating positive values in child's mind ? and by that activity they shape that child ???

[Morality Games]

It is the word of God.

Pretty blandly written considering we're talking about a being with infinite creativity. Interesting the Hebrew God used Greek as the founding language of his new religion too. Strange he did not use it better.

I don't see how anyone with literary taste could call that the word of an infinite being.

[tommy5x]

Quote by: Rainbow You think that I need to address the core for a child upbringing processs, (along with its outcomes) since some guys may or may not be familiar with it ??? Is that really so hard to understand that parents and/or guardians play the fundamental role in creating positive values in child's mind ? and by that activity they shape that child ???

We know this, however some things have a much smaller effect than others.

Gay parents do not equate to gay children.

Speaking from the point of view of mental health, even if homosexuality was a choice (which the majority of the homosexual community would disagree with) it is far preferable for a young person to know that they would be supported by their parents in any choice that has no discernable negative effect on society.

In what way is homosexuality a negative value? I'd quite like an answer that isn't "God said so."

[christianmathew]

Wow, you guys must really hate each other.
I'm only stepping in because that Marylin Monroe wanabe just dissed the bible.

Never, ever, insult what you do not understand because you have not read it. The bible is the book with the most evidence for it. There are more than 2 billion christians. Are they all wrong? The bible was writtten by human beings, but human beings who spoke the word of god. There is not a single inconsistency inside the bible. Everything matches up, because it was all written by one omnipitent being, God. It is his word, to teach a woefully wrong people. You may choose to not be Christian, but never, ever, diss something because you don't understand it. Don't you dare say the bible is wrong. If you don't believe some things it says, I won't hold it against you. But don't diss the bible as a whole.

[christianmathew]

Also, you can't just be forgiven by god if you ask him, and then keep on sinning. You have to truly repent, truly mean it, or you WILL go to hell. If you choose to nonchalantly sin, (keep sinning without a care), God will know you didn't mean it. You have to do more than ask.

[Matt W]

How about you back off, christianmathew, and debate the topic at hand.

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[Anmon]

dd..

[Matt W]

Let's stay on-topic.

[Rainbow]

Quote by: tommy5x We know this, however some things have a much smaller effect than others. Gay parents do not equate to gay children. Speaking from the point of view of mental health, even if homosexuality was a choice (which the majority of the homosexual community would disagree with) it is far preferable for a young person to know that they would be supported by their parents in any choice that has no discernable negative effect on society. In what way is homosexuality a negative value ? I'd quite like an answer that isn't "God said so."

Your findings are not quite correct.

Example :
"it is far preferable for a young person to know that they would be supported by their parents in any choice that has no discernable negative effect on society."
That is wrong determination.

"ANY" applies to all conditions and/or circumstances. If followed, it may result in variety of outcomes, including the most dramatic and/or tragic ones.
If you are suggesting that parents Must accept Anything a child has a desire and/or opt for, then you are wrong. Adding to that social factors, it would create a conflict, since communities, societies, groups, etc. follow certain values while an individual needs to respect and/or comply with. Otherwise that individual faces a rejection.
Also, I am scheptical that parents and/or guardians teach a boy and/or girl to search for a partner within the same gender, unless parents and/or guardians neglect that subject in a process of upbringing child.

The major Homo Sapiens' objective is to prolong its existence. Homo Sapiens' representatives of 2 opposite genders can deliver that crucial requirement. That is why communities, societies, groups, etc. recognize that activity and/or approach as the positive factor.
Otherwise, we deal with pathology.

Off Topic
Why are you questioning the base for Homo Sapiens existence ?
What is the issue with mental health ?
What makes you think I (allegedly) hate homosexualists ?

Example :
I was asked to host an individual. It appeared to be a gay.
I spent some days with that person. Among other subjects, we talked about his sexual approach and the reasons.
In short :
- he was raised by foster parents and/or guardians
- he knew he should go after girls and/or women
- he expressed his doubts for success while dealing with girls and/or women, at that time

P.S.
Try not to box others and build bridges instead of gaps.
You have not enough enemies and/or foes around you ?

[Tycoon]

It is the word of God.

Written by humans. Because of the human factor you cannot be sure that it is the word of God, if any God exists.

If things were perfect what would be the point of judgement or commandments. Things clearly were not meant to be perfect.

Why should we be judged? Perhaps God is the one who casts the first stone.

If you are suggesting that parents Must accept Anything a child has a desire and/or opt for, then you are wrong. Adding to that social factors, it would create a conflict, since communities, societies, groups, etc. follow certain values while an individual needs to respect and/or comply with. Otherwise that individual faces a rejection.

A parent should accept any lifestyle decision a child wants to make if it doesn't negatively affect society. If it doesn't negatively affect society then I see no reason why it shouldn't be allowed.

The major Homo Sapiens' objective is to prolong its existence. Homo Sapiens' representatives of 2 opposite genders can deliver that crucial requirement. That is why communities, societies, groups, etc. recognize that activity and/or approach as the positive factor.

And homosexuals won't become heterosexual just because that's what society wants. Homosexuals can still raise families. Homosexuality has no negative impact on society. Why should it be considered sin?

[Rainbow]

Quote by: Tycoon A parent should accept any lifestyle decision a child wants to make if it doesn't negatively affect society. If it doesn't negatively affect society then I see no reason why it shouldn't be allowed. And homosexuals won't become heterosexual just because that's what society wants. Homosexuals can still raise families. Homosexuality has no negative impact on society. Why should it be considered sin?

I do not think homosexuality is accepted. Homosexuality is tolarated.
There are some families that follow that concept and/or approach you express.

Do you mean that some guys see homosexuality as a sin ?

P.S.
Any <---> UnConditional

[Winter wind]

Quote by: anmon what do you mean?

Just my bitter sarcasm.

No, I think God created the Bible with the future in mind. That way the Bible's true meaning would become clearer as humanity matured as a whole.

Quote by: Rainbow You think that I need to address the core for a child upbringing processs, (along with its outcomes) since some guys may or may not be familiar with it ??? Is that really so hard to understand that parents and/or guardians play the fundamental role in creating positive values in child's mind ? and by that activity they shape that child ???

No it isn't rainbow. I, personally, was simply questioning why you think homosexuality will be detrimental to this process.

[Anmon]

Quote by: Winter wind No, I think God created the Bible with the future in mind. That way the Bible's true meaning would become clearer as humanity matured as a whole.

like the Bible codex?