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DadaOrwell2 · Mar 11, 2008, 12:00 pm

YouTube - Why so few Christians joining fight against The Mark?

For over twenty years, "Patriot Pastor" Garrett Lear has strode the halls of New Hampshire's legislature...serving as a voice for his faith and his Revolutionary War ancestors. Today he talks with us about Real ID, the liberty deficit among Christians and his colorful outfit. Pastor Lear's church is in Wakefield, New Hampshire.

What do *you* think? Is Real ID the Mark of the Beast? A precursor to it? A bad thing? A good thing?

Technosoul · Mar 11, 2008, 01:45 pm

Perhaps.

It is written that eveyone must bow down to the Beast. In America eveyone must pay taxes. You cannot buy or sell anything without bowing down to the Beast. According to the scriptures.

And so the Beast is a tax-collecting govenment, it is the 2nd Beast which is like unto the 1st Beast, which is the Church that pressured people to donate a percentage of their income to the Temple (religious organization that ruled). That is deducted because John wrote that the Beast had 7 heads.

He wrote that the 7 head would wear 10 crowns. The crown represents being like a king - the ruler. But how do you put 10 horns on only 7 heads?

Well, John repremanded 5 of the churches but two of them he did not repremand. So only five of them were crowned with a pair of horns, for a total of 10 horns. Leaving two of the churches hornless. Yet all 7 of the churches were heads on the main body of the early Christian organizaton "church".

Then the power shifted away from chruch rulership to governmental rulership, resulting in the 2nd beast which is like the 1st beast, collecting mandatory donations in the form of taxation. Like Rome did too the Jewish people.

The ID would of course be used to keep track of people and to make sure eveyone bows down and pays those taxes. Or "else" they get punished. Which would mark or brand those who belong to the government that collects taxes. And people fear the government and the IRS and so they bow to that demand.

Ron Paul tried to save branded sheepe from the Beast but got hung out to dry.

Whilletal · Mar 11, 2008, 03:32 pm

Could be because its just an ID card?

Domino · Mar 11, 2008, 04:15 pm

I'd say it's because the vast majority of Americans have no idea what Real ID is, or that it's coming soon to a town near you.

Technosoul · Mar 12, 2008, 11:42 am

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I'd say it's because the vast majority of Americans have no idea what Real ID is, or that it's coming soon to a town near you.

Well then why don't you tell us what a real ID is.

In the biblical days it was a hot iron mark like we use to brand cattle, it was used to brand slaves with so that if they escaped the slave could be located and returned to their owner.

HelioPrime · Mar 12, 2008, 05:31 pm

If the mark was really coming I think it would be in the form of a implanted chip or something. Required for your safety or some other cover.

The mark also follows after several other signs of the end of days which have not appeared.

Compugasm · Mar 12, 2008, 08:03 pm

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Quote by: DadaOrwell2

What do *you* think?

I thought it was credit cards, or barcodes, or RFID, or social security number, or maybe these fanatics just don't know what they hell they are talking about.

nerdvincent · Mar 12, 2008, 08:44 pm

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What do *you* think?

Just like jehova's witenesses who can't vote and religious right voting for republicans, fighting against Real ID because it is The Mark is another manifestation of this political tool called religion.

Technosoul · Mar 13, 2008, 12:58 am

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Quote by: HelioPrime

If the mark was really coming I think it would be in the form of a implanted chip or something. Required for your safety or some other cover.

The mark also follows after several other signs of the end of days which have not appeared.

The chips are for locating the owners of lost dogs.

Technosoul · Mar 13, 2008, 01:01 am

The really good thing about the mythology of that Mark of the Beast is that it prevents our government of acturally trying something like that.
Because the people would raise hell if they tried it.

lindsay7 · Mar 13, 2008, 01:10 am

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The chips are for locating the owners of lost dogs.

I saw on the news that soon they will be available to parents who want to get their children chipped, for safety reasons. It was very biased on the news, and very much in support of this. In fact, the reporter even said, and I quote, "Civil libertarians, eat your heart out."

I think that they are slowly trying to get us more and more accustomed to this. They will not come out with it all at once, they will slowly integrate things, so that we become accustomed and the majority does not protest too much.

ShadowFox · Mar 13, 2008, 01:15 am

really? Hm, i guess me an a few of my friends should start working on a way to make it so it says were home or something when we sneak out

ChaChynga · Apr 1, 2008, 07:58 pm

When you give up your God Given rights for more security or anything then you deserve Not your supposed GOD nor your freedoms.

Americans that sell out for comfort and another round of golf hording their god for a retirement vacation season, deserve what they get, I just wish they were the heck not IN MY country mucking up the system that was doing great in the beginning. It's only because the morals and the preachers have fallen down that we are in the place were in.

Piscean · Apr 1, 2008, 08:07 pm

The beast is the govt. and the church it's just different heads of the same thing controlling the masses of sheep with deception, it's so obvious that the whole world can't even see it!! The mark is already on the complacent masses, it's a stupor, a mind control, an enslavement

Piscean · Apr 1, 2008, 08:08 pm

When I say church I mean all world religions.

Tycoon · Apr 1, 2008, 08:22 pm

Christianity is manipulation at its most basic.

God loves you.
Jesus loves you.
Jesus died for you.

Not to mention the way it preaches its own superiority, with prayers for people who have lost their faith or never had it.

It is my belief that almost all Christians today believe in Christianity only because they were taught it at an impressionable age. They retain their belief because they are taught that if they stop believing they will go to Hell.

Piscean · Apr 1, 2008, 08:34 pm

Very true tycoon!

Mar 11, 2008, 12:00 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
DadaOrwell2 Molten Ash Posts: 65	Why so few Christians joining fight against The Mark? YouTube - Why so few Christians joining fight against The Mark? For over twenty years, "Patriot Pastor" Garrett Lear has strode the halls of New Hampshire's legislature...serving as a voice for his faith and his Revolutionary War ancestors. Today he talks with us about Real ID, the liberty deficit among Christians and his colorful outfit. Pastor Lear's church is in Wakefield, New Hampshire. What do you think? Is Real ID the Mark of the Beast? A precursor to it? A bad thing? A good thing? The New Hampshire Revolution Is Now Televised http://RidleyReport.com

Mar 11, 2008, 04:15 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
Domino I'm a pushover Posts: 344	I'd say it's because the vast majority of Americans have no idea what Real ID is, or that it's coming soon to a town near you. kill President attack nuclear bomb smuggle Echelon just recorded this message.

Mar 12, 2008, 05:31 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
HelioPrime Hucking Fuskies Location: Conn Posts: 2,511	If the mark was really coming I think it would be in the form of a implanted chip or something. Required for your safety or some other cover. The mark also follows after several other signs of the end of days which have not appeared. What do you say to an atheist who sneezes? Yourdeadthatsit! - Dane Cook

Mar 13, 2008, 01:15 am	#12 (permalink) (top)
ShadowFox formerly Halofan48 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,617	really? Hm, i guess me an a few of my friends should start working on a way to make it so it says were home or something when we sneak out Knowledge is power, use it well. Don't fear the unknown, seek to understand it Formerly Halofan48 Fun game!!!

Mar 11, 2008, 01:45 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,663	Perhaps. It is written that eveyone must bow down to the Beast. In America eveyone must pay taxes. You cannot buy or sell anything without bowing down to the Beast. According to the scriptures. And so the Beast is a tax-collecting govenment, it is the 2nd Beast which is like unto the 1st Beast, which is the Church that pressured people to donate a percentage of their income to the Temple (religious organization that ruled). That is deducted because John wrote that the Beast had 7 heads. He wrote that the 7 head would wear 10 crowns. The crown represents being like a king - the ruler. But how do you put 10 horns on only 7 heads? Well, John repremanded 5 of the churches but two of them he did not repremand. So only five of them were crowned with a pair of horns, for a total of 10 horns. Leaving two of the churches hornless. Yet all 7 of the churches were heads on the main body of the early Christian organizaton "church". Then the power shifted away from chruch rulership to governmental rulership, resulting in the 2nd beast which is like the 1st beast, collecting mandatory donations in the form of taxation. Like Rome did too the Jewish people. The ID would of course be used to keep track of people and to make sure eveyone bows down and pays those taxes. Or "else" they get punished. Which would mark or brand those who belong to the government that collects taxes. And people fear the government and the IRS and so they bow to that demand. Ron Paul tried to save branded sheepe from the Beast but got hung out to dry.

Mar 11, 2008, 03:32 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
Whilletal Apathetic Posts: 104	Could be because its just an ID card?

Mar 13, 2008, 01:01 am	#10 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,663	The really good thing about the mythology of that Mark of the Beast is that it prevents our government of acturally trying something like that. Because the people would raise hell if they tried it.

Apr 1, 2008, 07:58 pm	#13 (permalink) (top)
ChaChynga Molten Ash Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 58	When you give up your God Given rights for more security or anything then you deserve Not your supposed GOD nor your freedoms. Americans that sell out for comfort and another round of golf hording their god for a retirement vacation season, deserve what they get, I just wish they were the heck not IN MY country mucking up the system that was doing great in the beginning. It's only because the morals and the preachers have fallen down that we are in the place were in.

Apr 1, 2008, 08:07 pm	#14 (permalink) (top)
Piscean Igneous Magma Posts: 279	The beast is the govt. and the church it's just different heads of the same thing controlling the masses of sheep with deception, it's so obvious that the whole world can't even see it!! The mark is already on the complacent masses, it's a stupor, a mind control, an enslavement

Apr 1, 2008, 08:08 pm	#15 (permalink) (top)
Piscean Igneous Magma Posts: 279	When I say church I mean all world religions.

Apr 1, 2008, 08:22 pm	#16 (permalink) (top)
Tycoon Queer Location: California Posts: 2,270	Christianity is manipulation at its most basic. God loves you. Jesus loves you. Jesus died for you. Not to mention the way it preaches its own superiority, with prayers for people who have lost their faith or never had it. It is my belief that almost all Christians today believe in Christianity only because they were taught it at an impressionable age. They retain their belief because they are taught that if they stop believing they will go to Hell.

Apr 1, 2008, 08:34 pm	#17 (permalink) (top)
Piscean Igneous Magma Posts: 279	Very true tycoon!