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veri-debatable · Mar 9, 2008, 09:52 pm

why is lust a bad, sinful nature through the eyes of god? I mean some of the negative impulses or actions brought about by lust are christianly inappropriate or frowned upon by the heavens such as rape murder theft or even slander, but i mean you cannot say that there are no positive outcomes to a harmless lust such as working harder to feel deserving of what you have become so damn lusty for what if a woman wears really slutty outfits bringing the lust of a man or lesbian woman to the max attracting such attention that may make the slut feel uncomfertable, for example say a lesbian cops a feel of those busty breasts covered practically nothing well maybe that slut will decide to wear a shirt or religious robe to keep from having such an experience in the future.?

So why is lust considered such a sin in the eyes of god?

Morality Games · Mar 9, 2008, 10:25 pm

Supposedly because it detracts from the experience of true love -- desire for someone on basis of their physical parts and not the essence of their being (soul) is a bestial approach to coupling.

Christian (and possibly Jewish / Islamic, although I am more uncertain on those points) condemnation of lust derives in large part from Plato's writings on the subject (see his dialogue, Symponsium).

Personally, I think distinguishing lust from personality attraction was a big mistake, as the two are best taken together if an effective relationship is to be developed. Many contemporary theists take this view, although they are likelier to use the word 'sexual attraction' than 'lust', because of the negative connatations of the word in their faith.

grandpa · Mar 10, 2008, 11:22 am

It depends on which religious person you ask.

REVEREND SUN MYUNG MOON:
"For husband and wife to focus just on each other is parasitic because
they are living off others. We all depend on other elements. All
mankind, including such a couple, is indebted to the universe. Man
represents heaven and woman earth, and all parts of heaven should
freely pass through them and connect in them. That is how we were
created to live. The universe supports us in every way, giving us air,
water, food and love."

Grandpa h.

Clarence · Mar 10, 2008, 11:32 am

you've got to have lust and a strong personal attraction.

zcbt3 · Mar 11, 2008, 12:11 am

Perhaps we should go back to the days of arranged marriages and chastity belts.

Court463 · Mar 11, 2008, 12:51 am

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Quote by: zcbt3

Perhaps we should go back to the days of arranged marriages and chastity belts.

Yeah because that would just solve everything if we force women to marry men they hate. The adultery rate would sky rocket. And i would think a chastity belt to be rather uncomfortable lol.

Anyway I don't see any way you could consider lust a sin, its a very basic human emotion to feel lust. All it is is the urge to reproduce, so its more of a primative instinct than an emotion. And if were all going to hell for feeling lusty everytime we see a woman in a bikini than heaven is going to have a population of 12.

zcbt3 · Mar 11, 2008, 12:56 am

I was being sarcastic. :)
Lust isn't something you can control, and I doubt that you can be condemned to Hell for something as silly as that.
However, if that is the case, I'll be tackling Hell with nothing but a thong bikini and wet t-shirt.

Court463 · Mar 11, 2008, 06:22 pm

Yeah I knew, I was being sarcastic to.

So wet T-shirt party in hell, sweeet!

moxann · Mar 13, 2008, 12:12 pm

Lust is fun, wild and it is portrayed that naive foolish people created/adapted the feeling and motions of lust. Yet if god tried to shield us from shame why from one fruit does he punish religious folks to feel such guilt for pleasure?

Court463 · Mar 13, 2008, 11:10 pm

Kind of a paradox i would say.

Intrestingly though the punishment for lust was death by being layed on hot coals or sumthing horrible like that, so not many people would confess i would think

moxann · Mar 14, 2008, 09:29 am

Yes and also lust was risky and risks are exciting which intises people towards those risky behaviors

Clarence · Mar 14, 2008, 09:34 am

I'm over risks. Longing for some good ol healthy lust. Don't wanna hurt nobody. However, since I'm still under contract, I uphold the vows. For me, if it's bad it's not fun (in these matters). Sucks to have inhibitions. Everyone else is having so much fun

ChaChynga · Apr 1, 2008, 08:02 pm

There are many aspects to lust: it is usually a fuse into the other areas of sin or the commandments. You truly can not break one command without breaking them all. It truly comes down to only one command on a large scale: Love God with all your heart, and in that the others will be upheld, but to look at it from the perspective of Gods and Mans aspects, the Love God takes care of the divine and the Love Brother the Flesh, but you cant have the one without the other. They tie together as one.

Lust tears apart the fabric of trust and love for Father God and his Laws.

It sows the seeds of dissent and propagates the desire of action to make a forced revolt towards God and your duty.

Mar 9, 2008, 09:52 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
veri-debatable veri-debateable Location: jersey Posts: 9	lust? why is lust a bad, sinful nature through the eyes of god? I mean some of the negative impulses or actions brought about by lust are christianly inappropriate or frowned upon by the heavens such as rape murder theft or even slander, but i mean you cannot say that there are no positive outcomes to a harmless lust such as working harder to feel deserving of what you have become so damn lusty for what if a woman wears really slutty outfits bringing the lust of a man or lesbian woman to the max attracting such attention that may make the slut feel uncomfertable, for example say a lesbian cops a feel of those busty breasts covered practically nothing well maybe that slut will decide to wear a shirt or religious robe to keep from having such an experience in the future.? So why is lust considered such a sin in the eyes of god? Veri-debatable

Mar 9, 2008, 10:25 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Morality Games Igneous Magma Location: Iowa Posts: 704	Supposedly because it detracts from the experience of true love -- desire for someone on basis of their physical parts and not the essence of their being (soul) is a bestial approach to coupling. Christian (and possibly Jewish / Islamic, although I am more uncertain on those points) condemnation of lust derives in large part from Plato's writings on the subject (see his dialogue, Symponsium). Personally, I think distinguishing lust from personality attraction was a big mistake, as the two are best taken together if an effective relationship is to be developed. Many contemporary theists take this view, although they are likelier to use the word 'sexual attraction' than 'lust', because of the negative connatations of the word in their faith. Desires can be fulfilled or denied, but their perpetual presence in our being prevents us from simply ignoring them. And how you react to your desires will be the mark of your character. – K.H.Y.

Mar 10, 2008, 11:22 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
grandpa blasphemer Location: Michigan Posts: 7,244	It depends on which religious person you ask. REVEREND SUN MYUNG MOON: "For husband and wife to focus just on each other is parasitic because they are living off others. We all depend on other elements. All mankind, including such a couple, is indebted to the universe. Man represents heaven and woman earth, and all parts of heaven should freely pass through them and connect in them. That is how we were created to live. The universe supports us in every way, giving us air, water, food and love." Grandpa h. Political language ... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. – George Orwell

Mar 10, 2008, 11:32 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
Clarence pregnant with truth Posts: 2,165	you've got to have lust and a strong personal attraction.

Mar 11, 2008, 12:11 am	#5 (permalink) (top)
zcbt3 Sedimentary Rock Posts: 12	Perhaps we should go back to the days of arranged marriages and chastity belts.

Mar 11, 2008, 12:56 am	#7 (permalink) (top)
zcbt3 Sedimentary Rock Posts: 12	I was being sarcastic. :) Lust isn't something you can control, and I doubt that you can be condemned to Hell for something as silly as that. However, if that is the case, I'll be tackling Hell with nothing but a thong bikini and wet t-shirt.

Mar 11, 2008, 06:22 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
Court463 Molten Ash Posts: 101	Yeah I knew, I was being sarcastic to. So wet T-shirt party in hell, sweeet!

Mar 13, 2008, 12:12 pm	#9 (permalink) (top)
moxann Sedimentary Rock Location: New Jersey Posts: 4	Lust is fun, wild and it is portrayed that naive foolish people created/adapted the feeling and motions of lust. Yet if god tried to shield us from shame why from one fruit does he punish religious folks to feel such guilt for pleasure?

Mar 13, 2008, 11:10 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
Court463 Molten Ash Posts: 101	Kind of a paradox i would say. Intrestingly though the punishment for lust was death by being layed on hot coals or sumthing horrible like that, so not many people would confess i would think

Mar 14, 2008, 09:29 am	#11 (permalink) (top)
moxann Sedimentary Rock Location: New Jersey Posts: 4	Yes and also lust was risky and risks are exciting which intises people towards those risky behaviors

Mar 14, 2008, 09:34 am	#12 (permalink) (top)
Clarence pregnant with truth Posts: 2,165	I'm over risks. Longing for some good ol healthy lust. Don't wanna hurt nobody. However, since I'm still under contract, I uphold the vows. For me, if it's bad it's not fun (in these matters). Sucks to have inhibitions. Everyone else is having so much fun

Apr 1, 2008, 08:02 pm	#13 (permalink) (top)
ChaChynga Molten Ash Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 58	There are many aspects to lust: it is usually a fuse into the other areas of sin or the commandments. You truly can not break one command without breaking them all. It truly comes down to only one command on a large scale: Love God with all your heart, and in that the others will be upheld, but to look at it from the perspective of Gods and Mans aspects, the Love God takes care of the divine and the Love Brother the Flesh, but you cant have the one without the other. They tie together as one. Lust tears apart the fabric of trust and love for Father God and his Laws. It sows the seeds of dissent and propagates the desire of action to make a forced revolt towards God and your duty.