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Old Mar 2, 2008, 11:33 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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To be god is to know yourself

Is god as you would look at yourself?. why you might ask,who else could see god for what really is but yourself. know one else can see or feel what you can. if you be leave in god only your true self can know who this god is.
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Old Mar 2, 2008, 06:39 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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huh?
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Old Mar 2, 2008, 06:55 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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huh?
I see you dont know how, who, and when you created who you are! .
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Old Mar 3, 2008, 03:02 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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The "huh" was just a way of expressing my feelings about the grammatical issues in the OP / lack of evidence supporting whatever claims were being made.
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Old Mar 3, 2008, 11:22 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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The "huh" was just a way of expressing my feelings about the grammatical issues in the OP / lack of evidence supporting whatever claims were being made.
so your not evidence enough. you didn't created who you are?.so are you saying something or someone created who you have become?.
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Old Mar 3, 2008, 01:49 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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If people were created in the image of God then knowing the self would make sense, relative to knowing about the nature of God.

But what you have advocated is more of an Eastern religion idea then it is one being advocated by most Western religions.

Now Jesus said that he must depart this world so that God can send the indwelling spirit of truth to replace the physical presense of Jesus. So we must look within to find that spirit that is indwelling, that we might be within Jesus and so that he might be within us as a spirit. At that moment of contact then a marrage takes place when our inner self becomes one with the divine self that was sent to us. That the image of God is there-by "completed" and not "scattered", relative to our perception of it. Once we are aware of our true self then we can see it also in other people who have become one with the spirit of truth (and the spirit of love). And in the beauty of nature also.

As we are all the energy of one light.
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Old Mar 3, 2008, 02:08 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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If people were created in the image of God then
knowing the self would make sense, relative to knowing about
the nature of God.
But what you have advocated is more of an Eastern
religion idea then it is one being advocated by most
Western religions.
Truth and the "nature of God" are ultimately concepts, so to "know" either is merely to conceptualize. If we want, we can refer to internal nature and external form as "God," but I prefer to regard these things as general parts of life. reincarnation is another theory like this, and, if it were true that people could recycle while retaining previous knowledge, they'd surely have more time to learn and adequately meet otherwise impossible challenges (not that learning vast amounts of knowledge is necessarily the religious or patriotic thing to do -- if I may inject a little bit of personal opinion here).

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Old Mar 3, 2008, 02:46 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Truth and the "nature of God" are ultimately concepts, so to "know" either is merely to conceptualize. If we want, we can refer to internal nature and external form as "God," but I prefer to regard these things as general parts of life. reincarnation is another theory like this, and, if it were true that people could recycle while retaining previous knowledge, they'd surely have more time to learn and adequately meet otherwise impossible challenges (not that learning vast amounts of knowledge is necessarily the religious or patriotic thing to do -- if I may inject a little bit of personal opinion here).

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A concept is the sum total of what we have come to know "as our truth".

The term "merely to concepturalize" is under-stating the importance of finding a concept to believe in, which to give us our compass for hitch hiking around in our universe of reality as we imagine it to be.

The "concept" brings order to the otherwise randomess of exsistance. Gives the tree some gound in which to secure it's roots.

A man without a concept is a person lost in the random effects of confusion. But once you find your personalized concept to hang onto then it works like a truth to liberate you from confusion and the darkness of not knowing.

"For you shall come to know the concept and the concept will set you free" (not from a physical prison, but from the mental prison).

So we should get busy and seek our "designer heaven" so that we can design our reality on earth by those concepts.
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Old Mar 3, 2008, 04:30 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Is god as you would look at yourself ?.
why you might ask, who else could see god for what really is but yourself.
know one else can see or feel what you can.
if you be leave in god only your true self can know who this god is.
#1, #2
I am not interested in God's physical appearance.
(Does anybody care your ones, except for those you accept and/or deal with ? )

Since the Universe is built of atoms, then it must follow the same process of structure for every single element within (that Universe). Therefore, I take God as a sort of (Central) Brain/Mind all the Universe's elements are connected to/with/within.
Since 1 atom (itself) is not not (cap)able of existing itself and creating process of friction - in order to make a progress and/or evolution within the Environment it exists within - then it is required a second atom's existence in order to preceed with it. Therefore, there must be a second Universe at least (!!!) - (aside of the one we live-in) in order to complete that process.

All I am interested is : God's Mind. (In other words : the mechanism, factor, etc. that prompts Its functionality.)

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That is true.
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Old Mar 3, 2008, 04:31 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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If people were created in the image of God then knowing the self would make sense, relative to knowing about the nature of God.
The nature of god is nothing more than the animal within use all,When relieved it becomes the elements of life as we see them.

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But what you have advocated is more of an Eastern religion idea then it is one being advocated by most Western religions.`
Religion is nothing more than mans diversion, from the truth what is ourself.

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Now Jesus said that he must depart this world so that God can send the indwelling spirit of truth to replace the physical presense of Jesus.
To open ones inner self, is where the truth lies,only with a true heart you can see.

As we are looking for our own self, it becomes one with all.
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Old Mar 3, 2008, 04:37 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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#1, #2
I am not interested in God's physical appearance.
Waves hand in front of my face, you can not see me, but you can see what you want to see. but i will never see what you see.
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Old Mar 3, 2008, 04:42 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Waves hand in front of my face, you can not see me, but you can see what you want to see. but i will never see what you see.
That is obvious, since we have 2 different points of perception.
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Old Mar 3, 2008, 05:35 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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A concept is the sum total of what we have come to know "as our truth".
That is more of an incidental property than a defining feature, and it may not always apply (I would have to think about it a little first, and I am preoccupied with other ideas right now).

A concept is best thought of as a series of linked ideas.

After all, the total sum of what one knows about 'justice' could amount to no more than a notion (feeling) or idea (abstract), and it is improper to define something in the same way you can define something else.


A moral being is an entity for whom the disadvantage of others is an issue.
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Old Mar 3, 2008, 07:13 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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A concept is the sum total of what we have
come to know "as our truth".
The term "merely to concepturalize" is under-stating the importance
of finding a concept to believe in, which to give
us our compass for hitch hiking around in our universe
of reality as we imagine it to be.
Well, internal truth benefits from external validation, and that's what I try to look for (not that everyone else would give a damn). Looking at this game called life, I can't help but notice things as they are and realize some cynically exploit those who "imagine" certain things.

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Old Mar 3, 2008, 07:23 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Well, internal truth benefits from external validation, and that's what I try to look for (not that everyone else would give a damn). Looking at this game called life, I can't help but notice things as they are and realize some cynically exploit those who "imagine" certain things.

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Humans derive our sense of legitimacy from two authorities: what exists and what does not. We call the former 'facts' and such and the latter 'fiction' and such. Usually, people appeal to a blend of the two, as fact and fiction are generally indistinguishable in context-chained human thought.

I would like to say that history demonstrates there has been a progression from emphasis on fiction to emphasis on facts, but that is more incidental and only in certain demographics (like academia). For the most part, people have only shifted to less surreal fictions.

Note: Sometimes constructive fiction is better than malproductive facts at accomplishing some desirable end.


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Old Mar 3, 2008, 07:53 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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I agree, your true interbeing is what you see as God , but your brining up and faith is the main thing.
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Old Mar 3, 2008, 08:02 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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I agree, your true interbeing is what you see as God , but your brining up and faith is the main thing.
Senseless. "interbeing?" I take it you mean "inner being". Still senseless though.


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Old Mar 3, 2008, 09:04 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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Morality games? What is your real stand put on this? is sounds to me your a little wishy washy if you will stop trying to sound smart and spit out what the heck your trying to say please. You either think god's real or he's fake whitch is it and why? -southern boy
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Old Mar 3, 2008, 10:19 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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"Wishy-washy?" Okay, but I would say 'only passingly interested' be a better description of my feelings.

I don't know if there is a Supreme Being, but I am confident that all popular religious conceptions of what a Supreme Being would be like are entirely or mostly wrong on basis of philosophical, historical, and scientific investigation.

There are some theological accounts of a Supreme Being I appreciate more than others, but none of it is based on sound enough scientific evidence or philosophical reasoning for me to feel comfortable declaring myself a believer in God.

On the other hand, I think atheism is too strong a response to the idea of God.

In effect, I am agnostic.


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Old Mar 3, 2008, 10:38 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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What is agnostic anyway. But how foolish of you to think that you a meer human could concept anything tas close to the power of the lord. And for you to question it is blasahphy(sorry about my spelling i have so much to say and have to put it in words i dont use very often)
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