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Do NOT post on this thread if you don't have the decency to support your claims. Do NOT post on this thread if you don't have the decency to support your claims. Do NOT post on this thread if you don't have the decency to support your claims. Do NOT post on this thread if you don't have the decency to support your claims. Got that? One more time! Do NOT post on this thread if you don't have the decency to support your claims. GTFO of my thread or grow a pair and support your claims. Powerful.. magical.. e-e-e-eevil.. | |
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This is the second time you've said something stupid cause you haven't been paying attention. Powerful.. magical.. e-e-e-eevil.. | |
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TBH, it has nothing to do with what you do and do not knowing, buddy. These are reasons WHY I LACK BELIEF. kthx Quote:
I get the impression both you and Helio think of justice as some bifurcated matter. Infinite punishment for a finite sin is TOO MUCH. Easy forgiveness for a horrible deed is TOO LITTLE. Cool, yes? Quote:
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What you mean to say.. is most SCIENTISTS don't believe in god. Who can blame them? They're men and women of truth, not dogma. Quote:
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| technê Posts: 2,617 | Quote:
The presumption is that you are a dishonest individual for even thinking your god is the only true god. [i]"One objection that many critics have is the problem of logistics. However, with technologically advanced aircraft at His disposal, transportation for Jesus was NEVER a problem ---- loser | |
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Accepting God has shared information with everyone, makes the bible extremely problematic, because the bible declares this God has chosen people, and indeed has a relationship with these people that is different from all others. I mean, the biblical explanations of things can not be true if God was sharing information with everyone. The old testament god is a tribal god, not a universal god. Not until Hellenism and Rome, does this god because a universal god, and that is why Christianity had to break from Judaism. Quote:
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[quote]Decide to do what you want to do. No Christian NEEDS to defend the Bible's capability to convert you. [QUOTE/] then they will stop trying to convert people? :) [quote] It's scientifically wrong because, in a mutually exclusive sense, science doesn't believe in gods.....[/QUOTE/] How does the logic of that sentence work? Are you saying the universe revolves around the earth? How about the soul is in the blood? And speaking of blood, why were those sacrifices necessary and why do we no longer have to follow God's comments? And how about Satan and the demons? Have you counted many demons flying out of people's bodies lately? All this stuff is true, but it isn't scientific because science doesn't believe in gods? Whose science is that? There are scientist who do believe in God, and Cicero and Jefferson thought knowledge was essential, and that this knowledge comes from studying nature not religions. To clarify, there is a belief that, to know God we must study nature. Sorry, but you are speaking like a Christian who doesn't know about beliefs, not like one who is well informed. Quote:
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![]() Volcanic Erupter Location: Oregon Posts: 5,174 | Quote:
In answer to the question of why hold this God exist? There are many reasons for this. An important reason to acknowledge the existance of God is, we do not know everything, and God is the X factor. We learn far more when we begin with the idea that we don't know much, than if we begin with the idea that we already know all we need to know. We need that X factor. People who believe they can know absolute truth and "God's will" and absolutely dangerous. On the other hand, with reason we can have good moral judgement. This moral judgement rest in the belief of cause and effect. This is a belief in universe laws. Reason, is the controlling force of the universe, and all this is what democracy is about. Our liberty depends on it. Our liberty depends on believing that if we make bad choices, bad things will happen, and if we make good choices, good things will happen, and this is so no matter what. Our prays and rituals can not change the law of cause and effect, and even if we think we got away with something, the karma is in motion. | |
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| doughnut champion Location: .:::. Posts: 4 | In responce to #1. Did any of these other "messiahs" fulfill 61 different prophecies during their lives? Or did they match one or two? Part of the problem is that you do not have the Holy Spirit in you help you understand what the Bible is trying to tell you. Would you be willing to try this? Ask God to prove himself to you. All you need to do is ask. And then accept the results whichever way they go. But be honest with yourself when things start happening. Then tell me God does not exist. |
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| doughnut champion Location: .:::. Posts: 4 | Quote by Lullaby: Quote by: Chimera I know a lot of people that agree with me, but I have met some that don't. You have a big God-given brain. Decide to do what you want to do. No Christian NEEDS to defend the Bible's capability to convert you. Actually.. yes, yes they do. No man can prove God to you. Ask God to prove himself...he will be faithful. |
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| Posts: 3,018 | bigdeeno, I have spent a large majority of my life searching for God with an open heart. He did not answer, and to be honest, he's doing a hell of a good job making sure I don't believe. Also, this isn't the place to preach. Powerful.. magical.. e-e-e-eevil.. |
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This is either madness... or brilliance | |
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![]() Juris Doctor Location: Brockport, NY Posts: 2,166 | There simply is no God Why I lack belief in God. These two sentences are not the same thing. Your 8 points address only certain aspects of the Christian "God" of "The Bible". I think the followers of the thousands of other religions on earth might take some exception to your assertion that disproving a few small aspects of one religious text of one limited religion equals disproving God. "But it wasn't until he met his beautiful wife that he learned using logic and reason isn't enough. You have to be a dick to everyone who doesn't think like you." - South Park on Richard Dawkins |
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" I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1776 Last edited by Foxfyre; Nov 5, 2007 at 02:44 pm. | ||||||||||
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horus - Google Search mithra - Google Search dionysus - Google Search krishna - Google Search That should get you started. This isn't a "conspiracy theory".. any material on any of those gods say what I've been saying. Quote:
Jo Ann H. Moran Cruz and Richard Gerberding, Medieval Worlds: An Introduction to European History Houghton Mifflin Company 2004, pp. 44-45 Quote:
Supporting facts that accepting Jesus as your savior seems to do very little. IHS :: HNN :: God would be an atheist: Why can't we all be Japanese? Quote:
Journal of Religion and Society Countries with high levels of atheism also are the most charitable in terms of giving foreign aid to the developing world. US and Foreign Aid Assistance - Global Issues Atheists, being a moderate proportion of the USA population (about 8-16%) are disproportionately less numerous in the prison population (0.21%). The results of the Christians vs atheists in prison investigation. Quote:
Sure.. * LUKE 12:10, "And everyone that says a word against the Son of Man, that will be forgiven; But he that blasphemes against The Holy Spirit will not be forgiven * . MARK 3:29, "Whoever blasphemes against The Holy Spirit will never have forgiveness, but is guilty of everlasting sin." * MATTHEW 12: 31-32 "Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. And whoever shall speak a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age, or in the age to come". Quote:
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YouTube - Why Young Earth Creationists are WRONG YouTube - Why Young Earth Creationists are WRONG, Part II Quote:
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Journal of Religion and Society Countries with high levels of atheism also are the most charitable in terms of giving foreign aid to the developing world. US and Foreign Aid Assistance - Global Issues Atheists, being a moderate proportion of the USA population (about 8-16%) are disproportionately less numerous in the prison population (0.21%). The results of the Christians vs atheists in prison investigation. Quote:
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