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samsara15 · Jun 14, 2004, 09:54 pm

A world so cruel, a world so ridiculous, a life so short and brutal, a world filled with so many malicious idiots, obviously cannot be all there is to existence. On the other hand, none of the weird and fantastic ideas proposed by human religions could be true either. Plato's shadows on the wall seem like a much more reasonable idea than anything else. Maybe we just don't understand and our tiny little human brains are either not programmed to understand or capable of holding that much information.

Jun 14, 2004, 09:57 pm

You should really start looking at the cup as half full. Such a pesimistic outlook will lead to depression.

bugsbunny04 · Jun 14, 2004, 10:27 pm

How about "The cup is too large?"

mrmufin · Jun 15, 2004, 02:29 pm

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Originally posted by samsara15,+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (samsara15,)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>A world so cruel, a world so ridiculous, a life so short and brutal, a world filled with so many malicious idiots, obviously cannot be all there is to existence.[/b]

Hey, hey, hey... don't forget the non-malicious idiots.

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Originally posted by samsara15,@
On the other hand, none of the weird and fantastic ideas proposed by human religions could be true either.

Just outta curiousity, why not? Not that I disagree entirely; I'm just curious.

<!--QuoteBegin-samsara15,
Maybe we just don't understand and our tiny little human brains are either not programmed to understand or capable of holding that much information.[/quote]I suspect that our brains are capable of holding and effectively processing much more information than might be apparent via casual observation. Humans, in fact, have rather large brains when compared to most other species.

Regards,
mrmufin

Gorgo · Jun 15, 2004, 02:32 pm

Nope. That's all there is.

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Originally posted by samsara15,
...obviously cannot be all there is to existence.

**Pooeypants** · Jun 15, 2004, 02:50 pm

Gorgo, I'm not being funny here, but why do put your posts before the quoted post?

Gorgo · Jun 15, 2004, 02:58 pm

Never thought about it. That's how I'd rather read things, I guess. Does it make a difference?

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Originally posted by Pooeypants,
Gorgo, I'm not being funny here, but why do put your posts before the quoted post?

**Pooeypants** · Jun 15, 2004, 03:21 pm

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Originally posted by Gorgo,
Never thought about it. That's how I'd rather read things, I guess. Does it make a difference?

It's just that by conventional we have the quoted material and then the reply.

Gorgo · Jun 15, 2004, 04:11 pm

I do that with emails too. I don't like scrolling through a bunch of quoted stuff to get to the reply. I read the reply first, then if I need a refresher as to who said what, I read the quoted material. If something is too long, then it makes sense to intersperse.

G. Adams · Jun 15, 2004, 09:19 pm

I would argue that the likelihood of this world being an illusion is no greater than it being true. You can't know anything to exist for certain but the thoughts in your head.

But the more important question to draw from either position is-what the hell does it matter? Can you do anything about it, for certain?

samsara15 · Jun 15, 2004, 09:43 pm

On the other hand, why not let's try to enjoy ourselves as best we can? Why not be a hedonist, as long as we avoid hurting each other?

samsara15 · Jun 15, 2004, 09:44 pm

Why not any of the religions be true? They might, Make a compelling case. I haven't heard one yet.

mrmufin · Jun 16, 2004, 02:14 pm

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Originally posted by samsara15,
Why not any of the religions be true? They might, Make a compelling case. I haven't heard one yet.

Me neither.

Regards,
mrmufin

samsara15 · Jun 17, 2004, 09:04 pm

Pessimism is a good outlook.

Suburbanite · Jun 17, 2004, 10:35 pm

Maybe violence and cruelty are magnificent and beautiful and natural?

samsara15 · Jun 18, 2004, 12:22 pm

If violence and cruelty are your idea of magnificent and beautiful....you said it. I don't find them very appealing.

grandpa · Jun 18, 2004, 12:26 pm

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Originally posted by samsara15,
If violence and cruelty are your idea of magnificent and beautiful....you said it. I don't find them very appealing.

Nor do I.

Grandpa h.

samsara15 · Jun 19, 2004, 08:47 am

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Originally posted by Suburbanite,
Maybe violence and cruelty are magnificent and beautiful and natural?

Tell that to the family of the American engineer beheaded in Iraq.

debespace · Jun 23, 2004, 03:22 pm

Jesus was a mushroom you need to eat the flesh of the magic mushroom and all will be revealed.
all they say about Jesus is true except the part about him being a man, see for yourself.
it is old info passed on to people all over the world in diffrent storys and cultures.
if you are that fed up with what you see, then change your perseption by eating some magic mushrooms.
its much better than suicide.

Paavo · Jun 23, 2004, 07:08 pm

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Originally posted by debespace,
Jesus was a mushroom you need to eat the flesh of the magic mushroom and all will be revealed.
all they say about Jesus is true except the part about him being a man, see for yourself.
it is old info passed on to people all over the world in diffrent storys and cultures.
if you are that fed up with what you see, then change your perseption by eating some magic mushrooms.
its much better than suicide.

...wait, are you serious with this mushroom stuff?
As much as I find it funny, I find it interesting. Got some sources for more surfin'?

Jun 14, 2004, 09:54 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
samsara15 I'm the camel Location: Maryland Posts: 657	A world so cruel, a world so ridiculous, a life so short and brutal, a world filled with so many malicious idiots, obviously cannot be all there is to existence. On the other hand, none of the weird and fantastic ideas proposed by human religions could be true either. Plato's shadows on the wall seem like a much more reasonable idea than anything else. Maybe we just don't understand and our tiny little human brains are either not programmed to understand or capable of holding that much information. Economic Left/Right -8.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian –6.97

Jun 14, 2004, 10:27 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
bugsbunny04 Untrained Fodder Location: Alabama Posts: 1,354	How about "The cup is too large?" Clean toe caps and a filthy mouth! Low morals and high morale!

Jun 15, 2004, 02:50 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
Pooeypants Neo Moderator Location: England Posts: 5,609	Gorgo, I'm not being funny here, but why do put your posts before the quoted post? War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is strength Harness the power of Ingsoc, then you can capture someone killed the year before

Jun 15, 2004, 09:19 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
G. Adams Fyrdman Location: Middlesbrough UK Posts: 4,161	I would argue that the likelihood of this world being an illusion is no greater than it being true. You can't know anything to exist for certain but the thoughts in your head. But the more important question to draw from either position is-what the hell does it matter? Can you do anything about it, for certain? Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill

Jun 15, 2004, 09:43 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
samsara15 I'm the camel Location: Maryland Posts: 657	On the other hand, why not let's try to enjoy ourselves as best we can? Why not be a hedonist, as long as we avoid hurting each other? Economic Left/Right -8.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian –6.97

Jun 14, 2004, 09:57 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
dave654 Guest Posts: n/a	You should really start looking at the cup as half full. Such a pesimistic outlook will lead to depression.

Jun 15, 2004, 04:11 pm	#9 (permalink) (top)
Gorgo BANNED-Warned multiple times about instigating. User then reported topics multiple times to mess with staff. Posts: 4,412	I do that with emails too. I don't like scrolling through a bunch of quoted stuff to get to the reply. I read the reply first, then if I need a refresher as to who said what, I read the quoted material. If something is too long, then it makes sense to intersperse.

Jun 15, 2004, 09:44 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
samsara15 I'm the camel Location: Maryland Posts: 657	Why not any of the religions be true? They might, Make a compelling case. I haven't heard one yet. Economic Left/Right -8.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian –6.97

Jun 17, 2004, 09:04 pm	#14 (permalink) (top)
samsara15 I'm the camel Location: Maryland Posts: 657	Pessimism is a good outlook. Economic Left/Right -8.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian –6.97

Jun 17, 2004, 10:35 pm	#15 (permalink) (top)
Suburbanite BANNED Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,203	Maybe violence and cruelty are magnificent and beautiful and natural?

Jun 18, 2004, 12:22 pm	#16 (permalink) (top)
samsara15 I'm the camel Location: Maryland Posts: 657	If violence and cruelty are your idea of magnificent and beautiful....you said it. I don't find them very appealing. Economic Left/Right -8.88 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian –6.97

Jun 23, 2004, 03:22 pm	#19 (permalink) (top)
debespace BANNED Posts: 40	Jesus was a mushroom you need to eat the flesh of the magic mushroom and all will be revealed. all they say about Jesus is true except the part about him being a man, see for yourself. it is old info passed on to people all over the world in diffrent storys and cultures. if you are that fed up with what you see, then change your perseption by eating some magic mushrooms. its much better than suicide.