God Does Not Exist Because .........

[melpomene]

The entity known as "God" doesnt exist.

"God" was created many a millenium ago so that we would not feel so alone and isolated in the universe.

[Sean]

were you there? ;)

I'm not saying I disagree with you, but I can't say I'm able to come to such conclusions with so little evidence of anything.

[fedfem]

"God" exists in the minds of those that believe in "God".

[G. Adams]

I may have said it before, but whether God exists or not is irrlevant. It is more important that any such deity presents a reason and worthiness for us to worhsip him. Untill then he can exist or not, but he has no affect upon my life.

[Pooeypants]

Well I for one don't have an imaginary friend anymore. I kind of stop believing in God when I realised how ridiculous the idea was, I was about 10 years old. The only real god is Deus ex Machina :D

[Impenitent]

it is impossible to prove a negative...

[As'rek]

I have a questin, but how do you explain "miracles" that seem often in certain religions. Also, your pretty much saying htat you don't believe in "scriptures" (The bible etc). So, I would like to hear your ideas/theories about where those books came from

[Jay]

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (As'rek,)
I have a questin, but how do you explain "miracles" that seem often in certain religions. Also, your pretty much saying htat you don't believe in "scriptures" (The bible etc). So, I would like to hear your ideas/theories about where those books came from<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

Take the Bible for example, it's a book full of stories and ancient attempts to explain how the world was created made by the people who lived during that time. Those "scriptures" you talk about are definately man made so I don't really see your point here.
The "miracles" you also mentioned are very often decorations made by the author to give the story something extraordinary or to include a reference to god by having somethin unexplainable in it.
Take for the example Jesus' healings and miracles. Some are explainable to some degree but most are not. But most likely all of them are just meant to metaphorically represent the helping and liberating affect of Jesus's ideals and actions.

fedfem said it best imho:
""God" exists in the minds of those that believe in "God"."

[fedfem]

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (As'rek,)
I have a questin, but how do you explain "miracles" that seem often in certain religions. Also, your pretty much saying htat you don't believe in "scriptures" (The bible etc). So, I would like to hear your ideas/theories about where those books came from<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>


That is pretty easy. Most "miracles" are hearsay and cannot be proven. As far as "Scriptures", they were written, edited and carefully chosen by people--which is a fact not a theory.

Are you saying that Scriptures are/represent God? What religion has its followers worship a book?

[Rave7pt0]

There seems to be a few stages of belief in God that I've noticed. First there's blind faith without consideration. Then there's the realization that the very idea is rediculous. Then there's the realization that the idea that there isn't a God is rediculous. Then there's the search to make it all fit.

It's a very natural progression, but let me ask you this: do you believe that anything you thought of when you were 10 held any intellectual weight? If you knew nothing about spirituality, would you take the word of a 10 year old? That's exactly what you did. I hope you can see that when you were 10 your mind wasn't nearly mature enough to make a call like that... I think you're clinging onto something that seems right without looking deeper.

[Jungliestner]

Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you.

I am going to ask myself if i have ever seen God? If i have ever heard my God?
Of course not. If i have ever felt my God, tasted my God, smelt my God? If i have ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
The answer again negative no. but yet i am still believe in God.

According to empirical, testable, demonstrable
protocol, science says that GOD doesn't exist.
butI only have my faith.
Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has. :p

If you do not agree with me then let me ask you now if there is anyone who has ever
seen your brain? If there anyone who has ever heard the your brain, felt it, touched or smelt it?.....No one appears to have done so.
So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain. With all due respect, how do we then trust your yourself?
I guess you'll have to take it on faith.
Thats it. The link between man & god
is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving and
alive.
With Best regards 2 U all
Jungliestner

[Milton Bradley]

Every other human that has been opened up (which is true empirical evidence) has in fact had a brain.


It is only a logical assumption that other similar life forms operate in the same manor. Not a big stretch of science, or the imagination to make that leap of faith.


Reading a sixteen hundred year old book, and putting faith in those descriptions is a much larger leap of faith. Parrticularly when God did not have the foresight, or care enough to have it translated into your native tongue.

[Prometheus]

Quote by: melpomene The entity known as "God" doesnt exist. "God" was created many a millenium ago so that we would not feel so alone and isolated in the universe.

This is not an argument or a debate. You are just making a statement meant to provoke. Grow up. I have $100 that say you are still in high school.

[Jack]

Jungliestner, I can get you a CAT scan or x-ray that will show you your brain. I don't need to take that on faith. Faith in god(s) just keeps them real to the believer.

[Critter]

Quote by: Milton Bradley Reading a sixteen hundred year old book, and putting faith in those descriptions is a much larger leap of faith. Parrticularly when God did not have the foresight, or care enough to have it translated into your native tongue.

However, God himself did not write the book. His followers did. The language it was written in was entirely up to the people of the time.

I fail to see how God had anything to do with the way people chose to write the Bible.

(The fact that it's been translated and re-translated into seventy gazillion different languages since then is beside the point.)

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Critter However, God himself did not write the book. His followers did. The language it was written in was entirely up to the people of the time. I fail to see how God had anything to do with the way people chose to write the Bible. (The fact that it's been translated and re-translated into seventy gazillion different languages since then is beside the point.)

As the story goes, man was getting along well, too well, and God interfered at the Tower of Babel, and God mixed up the languages. Man has been in conflict ever since, as was God's intention. (omnipotent, right?) So should God not bear the responsibility of man being incapable of getting along with his fellow man?


To me, it just seems like common sense to ask that since God was responsible for the mixing up of the languages, should He not be resonsible for the results? These are the fruits of His labor. I think that God really must not care enough about non-Jews to provide an accurate, dependable translation of the rules you need to gain entrance into Heaven. The chosen tongue has died, and been resurected, the message translated, and confused, the intent watered down, and one could argue largely disreguarded all these years later. But, again, who initiated this move in the wrong direction? Hmmm, I believe it was God Himself, was it not?


P.S. This is my continuing problem with the bible. The writers are always indicating where the problem starts, but somehow man always has to suffer, or bear the brunt of the responsibility of God's actions. This re-occurs again, and again in the bible. (God created Satan, God cast Him out of Heaven, God gave Satan power over man, and Earth, God sends one mans army to kill another group of men, etc, etc, etc...) Like all conflicts, it is easier to go to the root problem, and solve it, rather than attempt to correct all of the problems that have arisen since the great divide.

[Kuldeep]

God Does Not Exist Because Universe is infinitly growing and also reducing as proved scietifically by astromers. Mathematically speaking, it has limits of minus infinity and plus infinity. Therefore, creator of infinity must be also an infinity. Adding of two infinities mean an infinity only. Therefore in case infinite universe, no creator is possible. My conclusion is therefore and that too mathematically that there can be no God, but if you want, you may call Universe only as God!!!!!!

[Starboy]

Quote by: As'rek I have a questin, but how do you explain "miracles" that seem often in certain religions. Also, your pretty much saying htat you don't believe in "scriptures" (The bible etc). So, I would like to hear your ideas/theories about where those books came from

Which miracles? The Hindu miracles? I explain them as hoaxes, or as natural phenomena explained as being supernatural because adherents are so desperate to confirm their obviously bogus beliefs that they will twist and stretch anything to do it. But they can't see their own self deception even though for the same lame supernatural explanations applied to other phenomena by other religions they are able to see the hoax.

Starboy

[rez]

god does not exist because there is no way to disprove or prove god.

what fuels god is faith and belief, which theists feel, will propel them to the day where verification and experience will prove them correct. It is ashame that any atheist can skip the faith part and still come to the same conclusion that theists use in the end - verification/experience.

[LogicaLunatic]

Quote by: Jungliestner Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. I am going to ask myself if i have ever seen God? If i have ever heard my God? Of course not. If i have ever felt my God, tasted my God, smelt my God? If i have ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter? The answer again negative no. but yet i am still believe in God. According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says that GOD doesn't exist. butI only have my faith. Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has. :p If you do not agree with me then let me ask you now if there is anyone who has ever seen your brain? If there anyone who has ever heard the your brain, felt it, touched or smelt it?.....No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain. With all due respect, how do we then trust your yourself? I guess you'll have to take it on faith. Thats it. The link between man & god is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving and alive. With Best regards 2 U all Jungliestner

No, your misunderstanding or misrepresentation of science says that you have no brain.

You say faith is what keeps things moving and alive? I say faith has caused more bad than good. Perhaps not always faith on god but definitely faith in general. Belief in something despite a severe lack of evidence or even counter evidence is Evil.

Faith was the root cause of the worst terrorist attack in US History.

Faith was the root cause of the Jewish holocaust.