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Old Jul 3, 2007, 06:14 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Basic nature of Living Being, Human in particular

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Are you not still a kid, Athena?? Even as a grand mother, when you enjoy nature around you !!! You are grand mother in mental calculation only or say in memory. Just forget your mental calculation for a second and just realize what you are !! You are a kid only, I can bet !!!

With age, we change our metality but, our basic nature of living being remains kid like only. Everybody like a kid wants to just enjoy life !!!!!
During writing above post in response to Athena's thread "Kid Shop" on S&T section, I wondered what I am writing ; Is it correct??

Does in reality, our kid nature remains with us till death ???

Now to know that, it is essential to know what is kid's nature on the average. To my mind kid's main basic nature is JUST ENJOY !!!! Enjoy what ? Life, I mean ! Just eating, playing, wearing nice dresses ...and the like. I can also say, "Kids want to be always happy and satisfied."

Do we not want to be always happy irrespective of age ?? I feel yes. So I think, we always live with basic kid's nature in tact. I even feel that all living beings must be carrying such basic kid's nature with them.

What others say...Or, I am just stupid in thinking so !!!!
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Old Jul 3, 2007, 02:04 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Definately not stupid Kuldeep

there is not only innocence in a childs fun
there is also a sense of adventure which makes the fun greater, our experiences of life make us cautious sometimes beyond our ability to enjoy ourselves imo
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Old Jul 3, 2007, 09:35 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Definately not stupid Kuldeep

there is not only innocence in a childs fun
there is also a sense of adventure which makes the fun greater, our experiences of life make us cautious sometimes beyond our ability to enjoy ourselves imo
Man, are you folks living in a fantasy land. Hundreds of millions of children are born into suffering and never emerge from it.

They make the "nice dresses" for the rich. The never wear them.

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Old Jul 3, 2007, 10:14 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Definately not stupid Kuldeep

there is not only innocence in a childs fun
there is also a sense of adventure which makes the fun greater, our experiences of life make us cautious sometimes beyond our ability to enjoy ourselves imo
Wow a comma would give your first sentence a very different meaning than it has without a comma.
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Old Jul 3, 2007, 10:21 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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Man, are you folks living in a fantasy land. Hundreds of millions of children are born into suffering and never emerge from it.

They make the "nice dresses" for the rich. The never wear them.

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Now I see starving children with swollen bellies, and fear in their eyes. It is nice to think when their bellies are full then may be happy children.

However, now I think of the 4 year old telling me about wanting to throw a fire bomb in his neighorbors home. There was no innocent within this child, or if it was there, it was smothered under his pain and what seemed to old person ideas of how to deal with the pain. It was as though the happy child he should have been was dead inside of him, and I am very thankful I was able to take my own children from the neighborhood that produced such child.
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Old Jul 3, 2007, 10:31 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Personally I feel like I was born an old soul. I am here for a purpose and that purpose is not playing and enjoying life as a child, but increasing awareness within my culture to stop human suffering. I was never a playful child, but always contemplative.

Perhaps, Kuldeep, we are born for different reasons? Perhaps our karma requires us to experience life differently?
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Old Jul 4, 2007, 02:04 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Definately not stupid Kuldeep

there is not only innocence in a childs fun
there is also a sense of adventure which makes the fun greater, our experiences of life make us cautious sometimes beyond our ability to enjoy ourselves imo
Thanks your elaboration has made me imagine, where that comma (,) should go. Let Athena also note that the (,), which is missed, Arawn wanted to put as;

Definately not stupid, Kuldeep !

and not

Definately not, stupid Kuldeep !

Well, see Athena your pointing out and my enjoyment taken out of it shows we continue to be child like (Kids)
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Old Jul 4, 2007, 02:06 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Man, are you folks living in a fantasy land. Hundreds of millions of children are born into suffering and never emerge from it.

They make the "nice dresses" for the rich. The never wear them.

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That is due to their financial burden, but desire is to enjoy the life only !
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Old Jul 4, 2007, 02:36 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Personally I feel like I was born an old soul. I am here for a purpose and that purpose is not playing and enjoying life as a child, but increasing awareness within my culture to stop human suffering. I was never a playful child, but always contemplative.
Very good that your purpose of life has been always, increasing awareness within your culture to stop human suffering. What if you are successful to an extent !! You would feel satisfied and happy. You have a desire, to fulfill that deire you perform actions. You get success and feel happy and satisfied. Or, you may not get success and feel sad. In both the cases the cycle thought, actions, result and its effect on your mood; all in sum total is basically "play" only. But, your knowledge and prejudice mind converts it to a serious issue !!!

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Perhaps, Kuldeep, we are born for different reasons? Perhaps our karma requires us to experience life differently?
Please do not mix Karmas into the basic nature of yourself. Karmas are related to your luck and destiny from time to time. But basic nature of self is constant. With unbiased and memory free mind, even for a second, just think what is your basic nature !!!

I am sure, you would feel that your basic nature is to be happy and enjoy !. See you want morality, democracy, whole world peaceful...and the like. At the back of your mind is, you want all that to keep your own self peaceful and satisfied.
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Old Jul 5, 2007, 01:43 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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sometimes a child leaves out a comma through ignorance

when a comma has been deliberaely withheld by an adult
it is for the reader to define their meaning :)
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