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texasdave · Jun 25, 2007, 03:33 pm

I have a question for all atheists. If there was a God that was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, would you serve Him?

Osborn F Enready · Jun 25, 2007, 10:00 pm

I am not an athiest, but as an agnostic, I would ask why my service would be required.
... and I would also ask if he would serve me, when it was convenient, like if he was by the fridge and I was sitting down and wanted a glass of iced tea... as well as when it wasn't convenient, such as going out on a cold stormy night to give me a ride when my car broke down, and he knew his car had no gas, and he would have to stop by the ATM to get gas money.

texasdave · Jun 25, 2007, 10:03 pm

If you serve God faithfully, He will give you your heart's desire.

yourwrong · Jun 25, 2007, 10:28 pm

I would not want to but probably would because the only alternative is Hell.

yourwrong · Jun 25, 2007, 10:31 pm

My hearts desire is there to be no god so I don't have to be a slave to it will I get that wish if I serve god?

Technosoul · Jun 25, 2007, 10:43 pm

We all work for someone to get our paycheck to buy what we desire. got a better offer?

Technosoul · Jun 25, 2007, 10:44 pm

Texasdave - you should open a God's Employment Office for all the homeless people.

Hylife · Jun 25, 2007, 11:10 pm

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My hearts desire is there to be no god so I don't have to be a slave to it will I get that wish if I serve god?

yeah, because the only "god" you're a slave to is yourself, Satan, and sin..

Fangrim · Jun 25, 2007, 11:15 pm

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yeah, because the only "god" you're a slave to is yourself, Satan, and sin..

And you are the slave of the God of Abraham.

Isn't that fun? Debates are wonderful when the come down to "you're the slave of..." and "you have a nose the size of a banana."

**Jack** · Jun 25, 2007, 11:16 pm

I doubt it, as the Christian god is too despotic, too interested in revenge and exclusion, too incompetent to be worthy of respect. There are other gods that, if real, would deserve respect and devotion.

Now, if it were proven beyond a doubt that the Christian god didn't exist, what would you do, texasdave? Would you find another god to believe in or accept an atheistic stance?

Hylife · Jun 25, 2007, 11:20 pm

why talk about impossible things isherwood??

Maryjane · Jun 25, 2007, 11:35 pm

Would I have to give up my free will?

**Jack** · Jun 25, 2007, 11:49 pm

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why talk about impossible things isherwood??

My question is no more or less impossible than the premise that started this thread, "If there was a God that was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt...".

SoylentGreen · Jun 26, 2007, 12:29 am

I think I would be inclined to have a go at killing the bastard and ridding us of him once and for all.

Yasa · Jun 26, 2007, 12:41 am

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I would not want to but probably would because the only alternative is Hell.

Exactly the reason I wouldn't serve him. All-loving my ass.

Milton Bradley · Jun 26, 2007, 01:05 am

The irony here being that to read of Heaven in the bible, all that is descibed is everybody sitting around worshipping God, 24 hours a day. No mention of anybodies personal fulfullment, just a huge gathering where everybody sits around, and worships God eternally.

That doesn't sound like the type of party I would like to attend.

Hylife · Jun 26, 2007, 01:07 am

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My question is no more or less impossible than the premise that started this thread, "If there was a God that was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt...".

good point..why WAS this thread started..

**Jack** · Jun 26, 2007, 01:13 am

Because some people like to play these petty games where, if I can get you to say something that appears to contradict your stated opinion, then I can pretend that I've "won" a debate.

Even if it were a proper philosophical exercise I'd answer the way I did. So the thread starter is doomed to fail in getting me to even say hypothetically that I'd serve his god. The Christian god doesn't appeal to me in theory or if I imagine he were real.

CoffeeSaint · Jun 26, 2007, 09:37 am

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Exactly the reason I wouldn't serve him. All-loving my ass.

Word.

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Quote by: Milton Bradley

The irony here being that to read of Heaven in the bible, all that is descibed is everybody sitting around worshipping God, 24 hours a day. No mention of anybodies personal fulfullment, just a huge gathering where everybody sits around, and worships God eternally.

That doesn't sound like the type of party I would like to attend.

Double word.

I wouldn't serve the Christian god even if he did exist. I wouldn't serve him if he asked me too. I wouldn't serve him if he threatened me. I would rather go to hell and suffer for all eternity than have anything to do with him. He disgusts me.

If there were a god that wasn't the Biblical god, then I might be willing to take part in his plan. But only if he asked nice.

Hey Os, pass me an iced tea, please?

ZNFYRH · Jun 26, 2007, 09:49 am

Coffee

That's my distinction. If the Christians were right, then God is my equal, not my master.

It all depends on which God we're talking about.

If the Greeks were right then Mount Olympus sounds like a rockin' fun place to hang out.

Jun 25, 2007, 03:33 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
texasdave BANNED Location: Texas Posts: 731	If There Was A God... I have a question for all atheists. If there was a God that was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, would you serve Him?

Jun 25, 2007, 10:00 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873	I am not an athiest, but as an agnostic, I would ask why my service would be required. ... and I would also ask if he would serve me, when it was convenient, like if he was by the fridge and I was sitting down and wanted a glass of iced tea... as well as when it wasn't convenient, such as going out on a cold stormy night to give me a ride when my car broke down, and he knew his car had no gas, and he would have to stop by the ATM to get gas money. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Jun 25, 2007, 11:16 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 13,761	I doubt it, as the Christian god is too despotic, too interested in revenge and exclusion, too incompetent to be worthy of respect. There are other gods that, if real, would deserve respect and devotion. Now, if it were proven beyond a doubt that the Christian god didn't exist, what would you do, texasdave? Would you find another god to believe in or accept an atheistic stance? The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

Jun 25, 2007, 11:35 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
Maryjane Amused Location: Mid Atlantic Posts: 1,247	Would I have to give up my free will? That you may retain your self-respect, it is better to displease the people by doing what you know is right, than to temporarily please them by doing what you know is wrong. W. J. H. Boetcker

Jun 26, 2007, 01:13 am	#18 (permalink) (top)
Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 13,761	Because some people like to play these petty games where, if I can get you to say something that appears to contradict your stated opinion, then I can pretend that I've "won" a debate. Even if it were a proper philosophical exercise I'd answer the way I did. So the thread starter is doomed to fail in getting me to even say hypothetically that I'd serve his god. The Christian god doesn't appeal to me in theory or if I imagine he were real. The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

Jun 25, 2007, 10:03 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
texasdave BANNED Location: Texas Posts: 731	If you serve God faithfully, He will give you your heart's desire.

Jun 25, 2007, 10:28 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
yourwrong Reasonably insane Posts: 180	I would not want to but probably would because the only alternative is Hell.

Jun 25, 2007, 10:31 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
yourwrong Reasonably insane Posts: 180	My hearts desire is there to be no god so I don't have to be a slave to it will I get that wish if I serve god?

Jun 25, 2007, 10:43 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,663	We all work for someone to get our paycheck to buy what we desire. got a better offer?

Jun 25, 2007, 10:44 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
Technosoul Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,663	Texasdave - you should open a God's Employment Office for all the homeless people.

Jun 25, 2007, 11:20 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
Hylife Molten Ash Posts: 137	why talk about impossible things isherwood??

Jun 26, 2007, 12:29 am	#14 (permalink) (top)
SoylentGreen Volcanic Erupter Posts: 2,903	I think I would be inclined to have a go at killing the bastard and ridding us of him once and for all.

Jun 26, 2007, 01:05 am	#16 (permalink) (top)
Milton Bradley BANNED Location: Ohio Province, Rep. of Comerica Posts: 7,320	The irony here being that to read of Heaven in the bible, all that is descibed is everybody sitting around worshipping God, 24 hours a day. No mention of anybodies personal fulfullment, just a huge gathering where everybody sits around, and worships God eternally. That doesn't sound like the type of party I would like to attend.

Jun 26, 2007, 09:49 am	#20 (permalink) (top)
ZNFYRH Volcanic Erupter Posts: 4,375	Coffee That's my distinction. If the Christians were right, then God is my equal, not my master. It all depends on which God we're talking about. If the Greeks were right then Mount Olympus sounds like a rockin' fun place to hang out. IT'S A BOY!!