Does Mother Nature exist.

[Jack]

Planet? Yes. But I believe (I'm not a cosmologist, so excuse my uncertainty) that the possibility still exists for a smaller body on the order of an asteroid to wreck havoc on the planet. All it would have to do to eliminate all life is destroy the atmosphere.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: rez I am just stating simple logic. If you believe in one supernatural explanation, then you should believe in all supernatural explanations. For example, what criteria do you use to think heaven is more real then valhalla. What criteria do you use to think that there is a underlying intelligence controling nature, rather then a retarded one foot gay monkey? Personally, it would make more sense that a retard created the universe. My point was you were showing them off to the wrong people. If you really wanted to have your views dissected and analyzed then you would write a scientific report, so scientists could read it. I don't ask you to prove claims, because that would be impossible to do. I ask you to support your claims. I never said that. Evolution is random because genetics is random. One person with a set of genes mates with another person with a different set of genes and produces a child that has a mix of those genes and thus more variety is added to the gene pool. You are not grasping what genetics is though. Remember the time analogy? 4.6 billion years = 60 minutes 50 minutes of that time the earth was covered by simple microbes 10 minutes of that time earth had animal life and 1/100th of a second humans were around. One person with a set of genes mates with another person with a different set of genes and produces a child that has a mix of those genes and thus more variety is added to the gene pool. Alot can happen within 1/100th second. A lot can happen in 1 minute. Do you see a theme here? Given enough time the gene pool will change. Time and random gene mutations is not a very intelligent process, and like I said it would make more sense that a retarded one foot gay monkey designed this process. Well out of the 3.8 billion years that animal life existed on earth or 10 minutes compared to an hour -- most of those species are extinct. that is not proof. Just because humans can play god, does not mean that process was used to create us.

1 - Wrong - nature is not supernatural even as a collective - not even as the total universe, and therefore if nature has a networking conscousness then such also is not supernatural, even if I call it a spirit of conscousness or name it mother nature it is all a natural part of nature. Not apart from nature.

2 - Book publishers are a funny lot, they invest in printing a book they think will sell. If I were working in the field of science, if I was teaching it at a university, if I had a PH.d behind my name - they might publish it, but I have none of those titiles and so it would be a waste of time for me to write a science book.

And it is not even a new idea, Peter Russell and others have already done it. This is my little idea about it and it is fine right here.

3 -Yeah, but which claim? name one.

4 -What do I not grasp about genetics? Support you claim with more detail.

5- This is not a topic about a creator or creationism, you got your topics mixed up.

6- This is not a topic about God - you got mixed up again. I suggest you go back to the O.P. and start over again.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Isherwood Planet? Yes. But I believe (I'm not a cosmologist, so excuse my uncertainty) that the possibility still exists for a smaller body on the order of an asteroid to wreck havoc on the planet. All it would have to do to eliminate all life is destroy the atmosphere.

That is why Mother Nature created Bruce Willis. (oh, that was only a movie). hmm? (note - that was a joke).

If the earth has been here for 6.4 Billion years and it has not happened yet then it would be unlogical to assume it would in the future. We know that most of the comets that pass through our solar system move in orbits and have been timed. No one has reported such a large comet and the ones known about seem to be passing by in more distant pathways then before. (not sure about that, but think I read that once).
But a fair sized one could cause something simular to a nuclear winter.
So the idea is correct but the facts about prior sightings of known comets to orbit this way do not suggest that happening as a random chance.

In my opinon.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Isherwood Planet? Yes. But I believe (I'm not a cosmologist, so excuse my uncertainty) that the possibility still exists for a smaller body on the order of an asteroid to wreck havoc on the planet. All it would have to do to eliminate all life is destroy the atmosphere.

The idea is correct, a large comet could cause effects simular to a nuclear winter.

- Joke: that is why nature made Bruce Willis - opps - that was only in the movies.

Now back to facts.

The idea is not based on known eveidence, if the earth has been here for 6.4 Billion years and it has not happened yet it is unlogical it can happen later on. We know what comets orbit through our solar system and we have been able to time them in a consitant manner. We have no records of very large random comets doing the same thing. We have names for those bigger comets and they always pass by at a distance far enough away not to cause us any problems, in regular orbits that do not flux all that much.

Due perhaps to those Newton principles, or due to him discorvering what Mother Nature so provided for 'balance".

unless the orbit takes longer then 6.4 Billion years to go full cycle.

[Jack]

Today, we estimate that up to 1500 objects larger than one kilometer (six tenths of a mile) across still exist in orbits near Earth. An asteroid from the smaller end of this scale could destroy a city. Our goal is to identify and track at least 90% of the near-Earth objects greater than one kilometer in diameter by 2008. In December of 2004, initial observations indicated that a 1,000 foot-wide asteroid had the potential of striking Earth on April 13th - Friday the 13th, as it happens - 2029. The asteroid was named 99942 Apophis, after the Egyptian god of destruction and darkness, Apep. Multiple observations of celestial objects are required in order to determine exact position and trajectory. As additional observations improved calculations of Apophis's course, scientists were able to rule out the possibility of a collision in 2029. But there remains a slight possibility that Apophis could be snagged by Earth's gravitational field in a way that causes it to strike the planet on a return flyby in the year 2036. This scenario would play out if, during the 2029 encounter, Apophis passes through the precise point in space at which Earth's gravitational pull would affect the asteroid's orbit in just the right way. This "keyhole" is less than 2,000 feet wide, so the probability this will happen is small (about one in 5,500). Apophis is the only asteroid that ranks on the Torino scale - a Richter-style rating system adopted by NASA in 1999 to rank asteroids in terms of their size, chance of colliding with Earth, and level of damage they could do if an impact occurs. Apophis is classified as a level-one threat, for which "the chance of collision is extremely unlikely with no cause for public attention or public concern." NASA continues to refine its understanding of Apophis' course. Though the risk of a collision is small, NASA is considering plans for thwarting Apophis should future observations show it to be a threat.

science@nasa - Will Earth Collide with Asteroids, Meteors or Comets?

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Isherwood science@nasa - Will Earth Collide with Asteroids, Meteors or Comets?

I did hear about that before when it was first observed. Also it would depend on what it is made of. From what I understand some comets are like chunks of ice.

With little evidence some have even speculated it is a gaint mothership UFO - or even the "floating city" talked about in the Bible.

Now back to real science - I do not know for sure if all such objects move in regulated orbits or not. If they do then tracking them would be easyer. Small objects are tracked because we now got space stations and other technology in space around earth, we are growing more dependant upon it.


What if it is what is left of the planet that once crashed with earth when earth was in orbit where the astrobelt is now located? Hmm? But I guess that wanna-be theory was already knocked out of it's orbit in your other post, so will not rehash that.

The due date is not that far off timewise, and some younger people here might be around in - when was it> 2039? Another thing is that a direct hit is not needed to generate large flood like tidal waves such as reported in mythology. The gravity of one would effect the other, it's gravity could cause things to happen here even with a near miss, but doubt if it's size is big enough, it depends on how much we cannot see of it behind the front side we can observe.

Anyway we are missing a contenant called Mu, perhaps ...it is coming back home? (another joking around comment to end my message).

None the less, the question is - is that object a random event or not? Could it have been circling through our solar system for years but we never had the technology or interest in tracking such things before now, and so it passed by without notice? If it is repeating an orbit through our solar system it is not random. And it is (was) the urge to proove that randomness is possible that this side-topic about comets came about - to disprove control via consciousness.