Unknown ancient(sacred)geometry

[andymonk]

Is this symbol the COMPLETE ancient flower of life? I would appreciate any opinions. Unknown ancient(sacred)geometry/ 4Love and light 2all:)x :eek:X

[Zhavric]

Hello Andy.

Please convince us your post isn't a spam message advertising the site you linked to.

[andymonk]

Quote by: Zhavric Hello Andy. Please convince us your post isn't a spam message advertising the site you linked to.

I,m new at all this. The site is a blog ive set up to get my theory out. Its not spam,its information i think is important to us all. Let me know if ive gone about it the wrong way. thanks:)

[Technosoul]

Andy - that is a great webpage you created for the information you wish to tell people about. When I looked at the opening page I did not see anything for sale and so forth. So I personally do not see much wrong with you posting it here for comments or debate purposes.

Most people would not know what a "flower of life" is all about and so you should have a little background about that in the post you made here.

As we scroll down the webpage we see circles everywhere, the circle, and circles within circles, is in my opinon the universal symbol for life.
The shape of the circle, and circular motion, is the "key" to most of mankinds religious (sacred) concepts.

A flower (most of them) also are designed with a number of circles and so have become symbols for eternal love and also used at grave sites to suggest eternity continues after death.

[ZNFYRH]

If you take any of those pictures and look at them like a "magic eye" picture (alter point of focus) you can lean in rather close and see fine details.

With some of them, you can see that the smaller circles that are formed can all be used to make perfect shapes of any number of sides.

[Jack]

Why the need to imply mystical meaning to geometric shapes? They are complex and beautiful, but what's mysterious about them? Fractals are the same type of thing. Are they magical, mystical and mysterious as well?

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Isherwood Why the need to imply mystical meaning to geometric shapes? They are complex and beautiful, but what's mysterious about them? Fractals are the same type of thing. Are they magical, mystical and mysterious as well?

I am not sure but I think that he might be making a connection between ancient drawings, that some claim to be mystical with modern crop circles that have lengendary alien connections?

[Jack]

A lot of those crop circles are beautiful as well. I don't mean to belittle the beauty in geometric design. I've long been fascinated with it (as a kid I had the original Spirograph, what a cool toy that was). Too bad my interest in geometric shapes didn't lead to better grades in geometry class.

[Rave7pt0]

The shape is very complex, so it's not surprising that you can see approximations of various religious symbols. I could probably find symbols and logos for modern companies and bands here as well.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: Rave7pt0 The shape is very complex, so it's not surprising that you can see approximations of various religious symbols. I could probably find symbols and logos for modern companies and bands here as well.

Phychology uses such tools, we call them ink blots, what a person sees in the Geometric design such as the one pictured can be employed to find out what a person thinks (emotionally) in layers under conscious awareness. Sort of like reading one's palm or astrogy chart.
But more direct and perhaps more effective. Some business logos are designed to communicate subconsious ideas to the consumers. Reading in meaning with ink blots (geometric pictures) can be reversed to speaking with such designs and linking them to a product.

I would suspect, but not sure?

RE: Carl Jung.

[andymonk]

The COMPLETE ancient flower of life is an interdimensional tool,a portal,a link back to the universal consciousness. The universal consciousness we were all part of before we entered this material world. The original flower is incomplete because it is only the first layer of three. The complete flower has the other two layers added,making it three dimensional. If you relax and let your eyes go out of focus,the flower will open. We do not see with our eyes,we see THROUGH our eyes. Let your mind focus,dont fight it! Its not a known science,but if you let it happen,you will be supprise by what appears. You may get a headache and itchy eyes,that will quickly disappear. 4Love and light2all:)x (Use the hand drawn flower)

[andymonk]

Quote by: Isherwood Why the need to imply mystical meaning to geometric shapes? They are complex and beautiful, but what's mysterious about them? Fractals are the same type of thing. Are they magical, mystical and mysterious as well?

The COMPLETE ancient flower of life contains the tree,the fruit,the egg and the seed of life. The complete flower also contains the metatron cube which holds all the platonics. Not just the building blocks of life but the building blocks of creation its self :)x

[andymonk]

Quote by: andymonk The COMPLETE ancient flower of life contains the tree,the fruit,the egg and the seed of life. The complete flower also contains the metatron cube which holds all the platonics. Not just the building blocks of life but the building blocks of creation its self :)x

This may help any seekers:) Alchemy, Magic, Incubation, Metatron, and Ancestors

[Technosoul]

Quote by: andymonk This may help any seekers:) Alchemy, Magic, Incubation, Metatron, and Ancestors

I could not tell anyone beans about the illustrations shown on the link but the ideas presented there I agree with, I have even been speaking about them in a number of my postings here but most people thought they were nutty ideas. But it makes sense to me.

Great weblink.

[SoylentGreen]

Technosoul I could not tell anyone beans about the illustrations shown on the link but the ideas presented there I agree with, I have even been speaking about them in a number of my postings here but most people thought they were nutty ideas

Yea sorry but I think they are nutty ideas to.
Just because a bunch of ancients drew some geometrical patterns does not give them automatically a mystic property.
No doubt they used them in a mystical sense but that was because that was the best way they could explain things in those days.
Now if you could make these patterns do something magical i might be impressed but likening ancient geometric patterns with similar modern geometric doesn't realy prove anything but that a circle 4000 years ago looks like a circle today.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: SoylentGreen Yea sorry but I think they are nutty ideas to. Just because a bunch of ancients drew some geometrical patterns does not give them automatically a mystic property. No doubt they used them in a mystical sense but that was because that was the best way they could explain things in those days. Now if you could make these patterns do something magical i might be impressed but likening ancient geometric patterns with similar modern geometric doesn't realy prove anything but that a circle 4000 years ago looks like a circle today.

My last post you replied to was about the lastest link inserted by Andymonk.

So a circle is still a circle - well - it passed the "test of time" and that is a relative proof about it's importance.

In the movie Black Robe the Missionary guy had a wind-up clock and all the natives would come to watch it. They thought it was magical because when it arrived at the right time the clock would speak "dong dong dong". (it also made loud ticking sounds). The clock was made using gears and circular motions of those circular objects to create that magic. The Indians named the preacherman wearing the black robe "Father Dong Dong". Things appear magical or supernatural only because we do not know how such a thing is possible.

Now one of the concepts related in those circular drawings is the idea of becoming whole and complete within singular containment - unit of indenity. To illustrate that nature is whole and complete within it's self.
A human being can idealistically become whole and complete within our self - independant of external help. But only relative to certain aspects of our life style as we must depend on nature for food, drink, and shelter.
And our sexual nature is best if we depend on a mate rather then trying to do it ourself, or doing without.

Being whole and complete as a self-contained idenity would be the best potential from an idealistic standpoint. Which is the message contained in the symbolic designs of those circle drawings. However I think the whole and complete would include all of nature and perhaps the total universe as that "completed" status.

However you might view the circles as magical hogwash if you do not know anything about the reality they are advocating. Like those primitive natives viewed that clock in the movie "Black Robe".

[SoylentGreen]

[b]Technosoul[/B ]However you might view the circles as magical hogwash if you do not know anything about the reality they are advocating. Like those primitive natives viewed that clock in the movie "Black Robe"

The reality is that they are simply geometric shapes and what they are advocating is a set of unsupported lies designed to mystify and bedazzle.
Simply put do not tell me these circles are magic like the man in the black robe tricked the natives into believing a simple mechanical watch is magic. Like the watch the circles are made up of simple rules of nature and an understanding of these rules takes away any magic others pretend they have.

[Technosoul]

Quote by: SoylentGreen The reality is that they are simply geometric shapes and what they are advocating is a set of unsupported lies designed to mystify and bedazzle. Simply put do not tell me these circles are magic like the man in the black robe tricked the natives into believing a simple mechanical watch is magic. Like the watch the circles are made up of simple rules of nature and an understanding of these rules takes away any magic others pretend they have.

If you think that relaxing the eyes to see something appear or standout in the complexity of the drawing is magical, then think again. What is magical about that?

Now the webpage from Andymock contained more then just those designs that were used by many different people. The webpage also contained pictures of wizard like people, and a cute she-goat with nice boobies. And so one would get the impression the designs were symbols for different cult like and odd religions which advocated something mystical. So no wonder you got that impression, so did I.

Many religions present something complex that must be interpreted to discover the secret meaning. The mysterious complexity has the effect of making people humble relative to the complexity of that "unknown" knowledge, and so they want to know what it means so they can become the teachers, and gain the respect of others who they can humble with the same myterious knowledge. For some, if is like looking at the night sky and asking "what is the meaning of all this".

A doctor can do the same thing with the complexity of genetics in order to humble people enough so they will respect his advice. It is human nature perhaps to do that.

After years of study on the designs you find out they could simply say "unity is the answer". But a simple saying does not sound "divine".

So you are correct to suspect pychological mind games are being employed to get out a message - which will turn out to be the basic ideas about love, peace, and unity.

In the DVD movie Black Robe the missionary ask the Indian to tell him something that no one else knows about, the Indian did that and the preist wrote it on some paper. Then they walked over and another man read what was written. (The indians did not know anything about reading and writing) and so they were shocked by that "Magic". Communicating without speaking a word was to them like "mind reading magic".
" I can you much more the missionary said" and walked away.

The Indians looked at each other and said "Black Robe is a Devil". So the indians got their "witchdoctor" to deal with the preist. He told them that devils do not loud noise" and he went over and started sreaming at the preist and waving some rattles. After a short time the missionary guy got up up and walked away into the woods to get away from the screaming medicene man. So the witchdoctor got credit for driving away the "devil" preist, who by the way got lost in the woods.

But the point is that in the early days the Bible was the "unknown knowledge" because most people did not know how to read. Which gave the educated temple teachers a leg up. If you know what I mean.

[andymonk]

The incomplete flower of life is found all over the ancient world. The oldest and original incomplete flower is found on several pillars within "the osireion" at abydos in egypt. The osireion(the tomb of osiris)is known to be the oldest building in egypt. To this day,no egyptologists or archaeologists can give a date for the flower. Neither can they explain why,who or what the flower was put there for. Any opinions? I believe the flower has been delibarately ignored by mainstream science so world secret societies can keep the flowers secrets hidden.:( New to the Site The Official Graham Hancock Website: Library

[Netopalis]

I saw a bunny in it.

In all seriousness, I don't believe these circles to hold any special power - in fact, I would wager that about half of the cave drawings involving circles were merely drawn that way because they looked pretty.