A 'relationship' with God

[texasdave]

There is only one God. He is " I AM" Praise be to His Holy Name. He is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. John 14: 6 " I AM the way, I AM the truth. and I AM the life; And no one comes to the Father but through Me." that is the truth. All other so-called gods are false. Diversions by the devil to lead you astray.

[Jack]

Every religion says the same thing. Everybody's god is the one true god. There's no objective reason to think you're right and all the others are wrong. They, too, claim relationships with their gods. That makes it very difficult to believe any of it, especially with the total lack of evidence to support anything theists say.

[texasdave]

Isherwood,
There is not a total lack of evidence. As I said, Read some books Explore the arguments. Read Lee Strobel's " Case for a Creator" Tons of scientific evidence there by cosmologists, astronomers, molecular biologists, physicists, etc. It would take five years for me to over it all here. Read the book, It has evidence. That is, unless you don't want to see the evidence. And don't try to dismiss the book with some criticism you found on some atheist site. You guys are always screaming about bias ,well, live up to those ideals every now and then. Look at both biased views and THEN decide.

[Jack]

Sorry. You're trying to imply I haven't read all that claptrap and that no one who reads it could possibly disagree with it. Well, I have and I do.

People without an understanding of science have no business pretending to refute scientific findings. Only the gullible and those who want to believe will read those books and refuse to investigate further to see if the "facts" presented are consistent with published scientific knowledge.

Science investigates nature without bias. Strobel looks at science through his confessed bias. The two points of view are not even close to being equal in examining the evidence.

[Bnet505]

Quote by: texasdave There is only one God. He is " I AM" Praise be to His Holy Name. He is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. John 14: 6 " I AM the way, I AM the truth. and I AM the life; And no one comes to the Father but through Me." that is the truth. All other so-called gods are false. Diversions by the devil to lead you astray.

You'll believe anything in the Bible, huh? What about * 2 Chronicles 15:12-13 - "They entered into a covenant to seek the LORD, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul. All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman."

You believe in murder of people like me, who don't agree with Christianity?

[texasdave]

Isherwood,
Please don't lie. I know you have never read "The Case for a Creator". You know how I know? Because you assume Lee Strobel wrote all the opinions in his book and came up with them on his own. His book is interviews with some of the most highly acclaimed scientists in the world. Most with multiple doctorate degrees and numerous scientific awards. All those he interviews are published and respected in their fields. Some are THE recognized best and some have won the Nobel prize. Strobel's book is not his opinions, it is his interviewee's opinions. And they present scientific FACTS in the book. Stop reading criticisms on the internet and actually read the book. Your lies are very transparent to someone who actually has read the book.

[Maryjane]

Because you assume Lee Strobel wrote all the opinions in his book and came up with them on his own. His book is interviews with some of the most highly acclaimed scientists in the world. Most with multiple doctorate degrees and numerous scientific awards. All those he interviews are published and respected in their fields. Some are THE recognized best and some have won the Nobel prize. Strobel's book is not his opinions, it is his interviewee's opinions. And they present scientific FACTS in the book. Stop reading criticisms on the internet and actually read the book.

Book Review....

About the Author of this Critique I would like to provide a little information about who I am and my perspective. Everybody has a bias. I would like to share mine so that the reader can best evaluate the merits of my arguments. At the time I first read The Case for Faith, I considered myself a Christian, albeit a weak one. The very kinds of questions that Strobel asks in this book are exactly the kinds of questions that I have asked myself many times. These questions would nag at me, making it difficult to have much faith. I used to attend church regularly, so I was certainly exposed to a Christian perspective on these questions. When I first heard of this book, I wondered if it could really answer my questions better than the pastors that I had already heard. Yet the book came with many, many glowing reviews, and became a very popular apologetic in Christian circles. I decided to read the book in the hope that it just might provide better answers to my questions. In short, it did not. The purpose of my critique is to explain why, in my view, The Case for Faith falls far short of its goals. At this point in time, I consider myself an atheist. Some of my critics contend that, since I'm an atheist, I intended to find fault with Strobel's book. But I was not an atheist at the time I read the book, and I did not read it with the intention of finding fault. I read it with the genuine intention of hoping to find answers to the kinds of questions that Strobel asks. My expertise is in computer programming, a discipline based on logic. So I feel most competent in noting the logical errors of the responses to the objections. When Strobel's discussions involve history or biology, I acknowledge that I am not really qualified to debate those lines of argument, and will refer the reader to other sources. Finally, I'd like to note a personal convention from the outset. I've developed a habit of capitalizing pronouns referring to God--such as He, Himself, His, and so on--which occasionally seems to clarify the antecedent. Consequently, I will follow this convention (unlike Strobel and his interviewees) throughout this critique.

The Case Against Faith: A Critical Look at Lee Strobel's The Case for Faith

[temptexasdave]

I read that book too. He interviews some of the world's most outstanding philosophers and theologens. But it is merely a book of opinions and you are free to agree or disagree. I was citing " Case for a CREATOR" not " Case for Faith" Two different books. He has also written " Case for Christ", "Case for Christmas", and "Case for Easter".

[ItsDarts]

Quote by: texasdave Isherwood, Please don't lie. I know you have never read "The Case for a Creator". You know how I know? Because you assume Lee Strobel wrote all the opinions in his book and came up with them on his own. His book is interviews with some of the most highly acclaimed scientists in the world. Most with multiple doctorate degrees and numerous scientific awards. All those he interviews are published and respected in their fields. Some are THE recognized best and some have won the Nobel prize. Strobel's book is not his opinions, it is his interviewee's opinions. And they present scientific FACTS in the book. Stop reading criticisms on the internet and actually read the book. Your lies are very transparent to someone who actually has read the book.

Since you apparently have this book and most of us don't, could you please cite us some of these "highly acclaimed scientists" with their names, something they've said and their credentials? Cite us some of the arguments FOR a creator that these scientists defend? Or will you just ignore this request as you've all but ignored my other requests? Your above post is nothing more than an arguement from authority, a logical falicy.

[JesusGodHatesYa]

My religion is right cause my Bible tells me sos. You Athists durn't understands logic.

[texasdave2]

You atheists do a bad impersonation. Although impersonation is the sincerest form of flattery. Thanks.

[pikatore]

texas, if you get a suspension, bite the bullet.

i don't know if you read my posts of not, but as OP creator, I DONT WANT PREACHING IN THIS THREAD.

stop preaching, or stop posting.