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![]() Mass'Debator Posts: 4,724 | Animals and How they Communicate: Has anybody ever considdered exactly how animals communicate with one another? Some considder how they communicate as primitive.... basic signals and commands to one another.... for survival alone..... But what if it was much more then that? One day I was waiting for the bus to work, and there was a sparrow singing a certain tune in the tree..... once completed with the tune, I heard almost immediatly another Sparrow across the street, deep in the woods make the same tune...... When he/she was completed, another one off in the other direction (In a triangular position with one another) sing the same tune..... Once one sang, then the next, and then the other..... never at the same time, and always in the same pattern (Bird A, to Bird B, to Bird C, back to Bird A.) However, once I heard Bird B stop singing and miss the cycle.... Bird A change tune and repeated this tune until Bird B responded back in the original tune, then Bird C continued, and Bird A went back to the original tune. What if the sounds animals make, such as the tunes birds sing, are much like an internet Modem..... it all sounds like one sound, and yet a paticular message is being sent in that sound that we don't reconize with our own understanding? What if the sound they produce is more of an emotional connection to the message they are trying to send out? In other words, it's like singing a paticular tune.... it reaches the other bird's ear..... and that one or two tunes holds pretty much everything the other was thinking.... like a quick telepathic link? Much like when one of us mumbles something like "uh-huh" ~ We know this means "Yes.... but not too enthusiastic about the yes." We as humans seemed to be more paticular about what sounds and signals we send one another..... but what if animals have it in a much simpiler yet more complex way of communicating compared to us? Think about the noises Dolphins and Killer Whales, etc make..... they're a bunch of squeeks and squaks to us..... but to them, they can have what seems as an entire conversation with one another and yet it all sounds the same to us. They are considdered by humans as being quite intelligent, in fact they say Dolphins can be almost as intelligent as us, if not more. Opinions? |
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![]() BANNED Location: Ohio Province, Rep. of Comerica Posts: 7,320 | I know I watched a Discovery Channel Special one time about how to communicate with your cat, and it seemed to work. The best thing I ever learned about my cat was that to look them directly in the eye, and then close your eyes which signifies trust, and sure enough my cat responded exaclty as they predicted. It seemed that he clearly understood the message, and responded in kind. I think it helped me to communicate with my best buddy, and I percieved that we were even closer after learning that about them. |
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| Igneous Magma Posts: 261 | Animals tend to respond to stimuli in their communications. Song birds use songs to establish territory and attract a mate. The birds were responding to the other birds being in the vicinity. Humans have conscious thought with which they can produce new concepts and ideas to communicate. Much like how a parrot can talk, but it doesn't really know what it is saying. Also Parrots can only mimic what a human says. If I want a parrot to say "polly want a cracker" I have to repeatedly say to the parrot "polly want a cracker" until it can replicate the phrase exactly. One could not introduce the words separately to the parrot. I cannot teach the word "polly" one week and then introduce "cracker" a week later and so on and so forth, and then expect the bird to put the sentence together using grammar and syntax. Parrots are great mimics of other animal sounds, This was probably a good evolutionary advantage . Humans on the other hand, can take separate words and the basic grammar of how a language works and produce new sentences that they did not have to memorize. Humans have the ability to take the grammatic/syntactic rules of a language (which are finite in number) and use these rules to theoretically create sentences of infinite length and compromising of any topic you can think of. Beware of Logical Fallacies. See a list of them in the link below. http://home.mcn.net/~montanabw/fallacies.html |
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![]() haha,charade you are Location: Earth Posts: 34 | I have an idea. Stand up... Wipe the cheetos off of your chest and go open up the shades. Open the window and stick your head out. Now I know this is a LOT to take it, but that is what we call the outside world. There are other living beings out there who aren't pixelated. Seriously James... A lot of people care. It's the beings we live with(well that some of us are attempting to live with when companies are destroying their homes). Anyways. I love attempting to communicate with animals. I saw the same special, and the bond between me and my cat is much closer. I have always thought that the chain of chirps birds will make is to see if any other birds are around; tell them how they are feeling(anxious, content, etc); what else is in the surrounding area. I have sat in my back yard and listened to the birds chatter in the same fashion you explained. Sometimes the birds would just sit and talk, sometimes they would chat and them all fly to the top of the post office behind my house, or they would chat for a little while and just fly off in different directions. |
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| Igneous Magma Posts: 261 | Quote:
I also read a book about communicating with my cats and I always did the blinking thing to them and every time they would respond in kind. I also use other techniques of communication to them. Even though I no longer have my beloved cats, I still do the same thing to any cat I can find, it still works every time. My girlfriend still doesn't believe that I can speak to her cat. Beware of Logical Fallacies. See a list of them in the link below. http://home.mcn.net/~montanabw/fallacies.html | |
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| Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,663 | One of the co-founders of the Boy Scouts wrote some books about nature (and Indians), he had years of experience in his nature-related occupation. And was a keen observer of nature. The book is called "wild animals I have known". Published back in the 1950s. One chapter was about crows, which are about as intelligent as dogs. He discovered that they have different codes contained in their ca ca noises. (for got the code so I will use examples). A group of crows would be on the ground feeding and one (at least) would perch on a high branch as the "watch-bird". The watcher would repeat the same three ca cas over and over as long as things were code-4 (safe and normal). But if a peditor appeared (or a human) the watcher crow would start using 4 ca cas, meaning "be on your alert". If he crow thought the group was in real danger then the CAs would got up to five in rapid sounds. It would also fly down over the group while making the "warning sounds" and the flock would fly away. They also had certain codes used when fighting over food or for mating purposes. Meanwhile, other animals in the field paid attention to those sounds the crows made and would take advantage of the warming sounds to hide from the preditors. The indians observed such behavior and would use it or mimic it when hunting or sneaking up on an enemy. The might "hoot" like an owl and others would hoot back, or course the white man just thought he was hearing owls not people. It was an effective way to communicate their positions and to co-ordinate the attack. Once I was outside and a bird was chriping in a tree and so I made a simular sound, the bird repeated it and would wait until I made the same sound before repeating it again. If I changed the sound a little, so did the bird. I was all meaningless chirping to me but I knew we must be communicating something the bird understood. |
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![]() Mass'Debator Posts: 4,724 | Actually my animal spirit is the Raven / Crow... (Haven't figured exactly which one yet) They have always followed around me everywhere I go.... I could be walking down the street for a long distance and the same crow or crows would stay perched up on the telephone poles watching me.... moving their heads to see what I was doing.... then when I got a ways down the road, they flew down to meet up with me and watch me some more.... it was pretty weird..... There have been plenty of other things in the past that has related me to Crows and the sort, but they are very interesting animals. Animal Spirit Energies ^ Theres a basic run down of their traits.... check to see the animal you like and see if it relates to your character..... what animal has always been in the back of your mind, which one always interested you? |
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| Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,663 | Quote:
However that spirit guide was not about my personality. That vision contained instructions for me concerning the environment, which occured just before the first weather changes started to take place. The frog lives in the water, and on land surrounded by air. So it experiences those multi-environments, giving it first hand knowledge about the water, air, and soil relative to what is happening to those environments. But crows are my speicial friends also. As a kid I had a pet crow which my brother rescued when it was a baby. I remember when the neighbors banged on the door because our crow was stealing clothpins off their clothline and they had to rewash everything that fell. They had those bright shinny plastic cloths pins. I had to climb up on our garage and find them in the crows secret hiding place. The fellow was are real treasure hunter of bright objects. Many years later I continued likeing crows and if we had left over pizza I would save it and give it to the crows. Once I worked at the docks and this one old crow would show up right on time everyday the lunch truck came to feed sell food to the workers. On the weekends I was on site by myself (security guard) and the crow would show up, I would share my lunch. It was that I had met someone on-line who claimed that animals can read our minds. So being a bit strange I conducted an experiment. I hid a cheese sandwish under a large cardboard and waited for the crow to arrive, he did but did not see any food. He was looking at me as if to say "where is lunch?". I concentrated hard on where I had hid the sandwish, but the crow flew away and I so I really concentrated "it's under the cardboard" as I stared right at the spot. Suddenly the crow made a u-turn in the sky and flew right down to the cardboard, used it's beak to move the cardboard out of the way, and then ate the cheese. For some reason that did not surprise me. But now I am a believer. | |
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