Love is blind; What about Hate ??

[Kuldeep]

It is said and argued that love is blind. I do not know full detail as to why love is considered blind. Has it no eyes or damaged ones???

Probably unknowingly persons fall in love with each other, so they might be considering love is blind.

All right, then what about Hate ! It is antonym of love, so I would consider hate as Deaf. You may consider it Dumb !

Deaf or Dumb ! Both can not be right.

So better to discuss !...open debate please.

[improvident]

when i hear the term 'love is blind' i dont think of love being some tangible object with eyes ears mouths noses or even a mind.. I think it is saying more so along the lines that love doesnt care who you are what you are or where you are.. if it finds you.. it finds you.. and you cant pick who love picks.. love picks at random... so therefore.. love is deaf dumb and blind..

Hate then. would in the same sense be 'blind' as well.. or is it.. hate and love.. are two completely different things.. almost to the point of not even being antonyms.. kinda like hot and cold.. you cant have one without the other.. yet according to science there is no such thing as cold.. only things that lack heat.. would it be safe then to say that there is no such thing as hate. only lack of love?.

[ZNFYRH]

Kuldeep

"Love is blind" is the expression used when people are in love who seem otherwise incompatible.

When people are ugly, racial differences, handicaps, etc., it is used to mean that love is based on something other than the five senses.

Hate, then, is also blind. You can think someone beautiful and think they are a great person but still hate them. You might even hate them for those very reasons.

[improvident]

when someone bases 'love' on the senses.. then its lust..

what do you call hate.. when its based on the senses.. such as racism.. ect..

Ignorance?

[ZNFYRH]

Prejudice.

[Jubloz]

"Love is blind" is a cliche that typically is:
1.) A dysphemism used against a couple that, in the opinion of the person, shouldn't be together or are awkward together for a variety of opinions that might include attractiveness, intellect, height, width, ethnicity, hobbies, skills, yet disregards traits the couple have in common.
2.) A euphemism for the idea that a couple that happen to be polar opposites can live in harmony and love each other. Once again, this idea ignores traits that the couple has in common.

So, I disagree with the premise of this discussion; love is not blind, hate is not blind, ignorance is.

[Kuldeep]

Quote by: improvident when i hear the term 'love is blind' i dont think of love being some tangible object with eyes ears mouths noses or even a mind.. I think it is saying more so along the lines that love doesnt care who you are what you are or where you are.. if it finds you.. it finds you.. and you cant pick who love picks.. love picks at random... so therefore.. love is deaf dumb and blind.. Hate then. would in the same sense be 'blind' as well.. or is it.. hate and love.. are two completely different things.. almost to the point of not even being antonyms.. kinda like hot and cold.. you cant have one without the other.. yet according to science there is no such thing as cold.. only things that lack heat.. would it be safe then to say that there is no such thing as hate. only lack of love?.

Agreed, love is not some living object with eyes ears, mouth or mind but then the saying must have some base. I was just wondering what that base could be!

Describing love a bit in detail, love are of numerous types;

1.Mother's love for children ! Child may be ugly, rouge, careless, unworthy...so and so forth, mother's love does not diminish.

2.Brother & brother, brother & sister love...is again unconditional type of love.

3.Husband & wife love based on social bindings and centered around sex, family welfare etc.

4.Opposite sex love centering at sex and enjoyment

5.Love for hobby, profession, fame and gaining knowledge

6. Love for imaginary God, religion and super-natural subject

7. Love for country, humanity, nature and other living beings

8. Most strong love for one's own body.

In all the above cases love has purpose. At times it takes logic into consideration and at times remain illogical while loving something. In the latter cases probably love is termed blind since, no logic or reason has been taken into consideration.

Hate is not exactly lack of love but anti-love. You may not love something but, that does not mean you hate it. You may neither love nor hate something . You can be just neutral. Hate becomes something altogether a different thing. As in case of love, hate can be also with reason and without reason.

Coming to the main difference between love and hate, it is the attention of mind which varies. The attention of mind in case of hate is more strong and revengeful than in case of love:

To illustrate this difference here is a Hindu mythological story:

Some great saint, came once to visit Lord Vishnu. Since, Lord Vishnu was taking rest at that point of time, his gate keeper did not allow the Saint to meet the Lord. The Saint become angry and cursed the gate keeper that he would have to go to earth for learning some lessons to know, how to respect guest of high level like the one he was!

Lord Vishnu came from inside, after listening to heated conversation. The Saint was well received by the Lord, but Gate-Keeper had to depart for earth. Gate Keeper was upset. He pleaded for mersy to the Lord and asked to avert this to happen somehow. He said that it would not be possible to remain happy by remaining awy from Lord. Lord said nothing can be done, Saint's saying is to fulfill & sure to happen ! But then, do not worry there is a short cut solution:

Lord Vishnu said to Gate Keeper, " While at earth If you worship me whole heartedly then you would come back to me in 7 lives. And if you always hate me, then it would take only 3 lives". Gate Keeper wish to come back as early as possible so he decided to hate Lord Vishnu, while at earth.

It said, he went away and in three lives he became Ravana hated Rama in first life, Kansa hated Krishna in second life and Harnakashapa and hated Lord Vishu itself in third life.

This explains how hate develops stronger linkage to remember anybody than through love!

In conclusion, to my mind if love is blind, deaf and dumb in some situations, hate too is blind, deaf and dumb in some situations but more powerful and intense to have impact !!!!

[Kamehameha34]

Both love and hate are results of the culmination of all of the senses.

Many sensual factors contribute to love - the sound of someone's voice, the smell of their hair, etc.

[Jack]

Jubloz, you've never seen the phrase "blind hatred"? I've seen the results. It's real.

[jascowhiz0]

Love and Hate are choices. If love were only a feeling there would be a very high divorce rate.... Oh wait, that is the society we live in, one of feelings. No wonder the divorce rate is so high.

An example of feeling taking over our society would be, "How do you feel about x issue?" That has replaced, "What do you think about x issue?"

[Jubloz]

Quote by: Isherwood Jubloz, you've never seen the phrase "blind hatred"? I've seen the results. It's real.

Please, give more details. What results? How do you know it's real? How are you defining "blind hatred"? I'd love to respond but I need more information first.

[Jack]

The best example I can think of at the moment is a guy we once arrested for murder. He came home from work, got into an argument with his wife over some normally insignificant thing, and in a rage wound up beating her and their child to death. As soon as the rage dissipated, he was remorseful. He couldn't explain why he'd flown into the rage or why he killed his family, who everyone who knew them agreed he loved deeply.
Rage, hatred, anger, they're all irrational emotions that if not controlled can cause us to behave in ways we normally wouldn't.

I'd say the killing of Matthew Shepard would be an instance of blind hatred.

[Jubloz]

Quote by: Isherwood The best example I can think of at the moment is a guy we once arrested for murder. He came home from work, got into an argument with his wife over some normally insignificant thing, and in a rage wound up beating her and their child to death. As soon as the rage dissipated, he was remorseful. He couldn't explain why he'd flown into the rage or why he killed his family, who everyone who knew them agreed he loved deeply.

You work for the police force? That's a pretty crazy example, do you know the results of his court case? It sounds like he had some sort of mental problem, such as a chemical imbalance. This sort of reminds me of a story I studied in an ethics class where some poor bloke beat his wife up pretty badly; lately he had been acting pretty strange and overly aggressive, but had no history of violence. His lawyer was an intelligent guy and decided to get his client an MRI. It turned out that his client had a tumor that was causing some increased aggression and it was removed. Apparently he, his wife, and his family stayed together and the issue was non-existent after the tumor.

Quote by: Isherwood Rage, hatred, anger, they're all irrational emotions that if not controlled can cause us to behave in ways we normally wouldn't.

For the most part, I agree. There are cases where such emotions are probably useful, but I don't want to hijack the thread and steer it in a different direction

[Jack]

You work for the police force?

Worked. Two years. I couldn't deal with it.

[jascowhiz0]

Quote by: Isherwood The best example I can think of at the moment is a guy we once arrested for murder. He came home from work, got into an argument with his wife over some normally insignificant thing, and in a rage wound up beating her and their child to death. As soon as the rage dissipated, he was remorseful. He couldn't explain why he'd flown into the rage or why he killed his family, who everyone who knew them agreed he loved deeply. Rage, hatred, anger, they're all irrational emotions that if not controlled can cause us to behave in ways we normally wouldn't. I'd say the killing of Matthew Shepard would be an instance of blind hatred.

Hatred isn't a temporary emotion like your example is. Hatred exists until you choose to not hate it anymore. Look at select groups of Muslims and Christians for example. Some Christians hate gays, not because their hate is irrational, but because they choose to believe in Christianity and in their viewpoint of things, gays are against Christianity so they hate them. Same thing with certain groups of Muslims. Within the Qur'an it says to kill all Christians and Jews. Its not that hating Christians and Jews is irrational, they choose Islam and Islam tells them to hate Christians and Jews.

Love and Hate are choices, because they last until you choose otherwise.

[Kuldeep]

Quote by: jascowhiz0 Love and Hate are choices, because they last until you choose otherwise.

Agreed they are choices.

Isher says both can be blind. I say both can be blind, deaf and dumb. But both can be rational and irrational.