Jesus New Name

[Battig1370]

In Rev.3:12, it is written that "I will write on him My New Name"

The "I" written here is Jesus.

So what is Jesus New Name?

[Madeline]

Quote by: Battig1370 In Rev.3:12, it is written that "I will write on him My New Name" The "I" written here is Jesus. So what is Jesus New Name?

Revelation is a highly allegorical and filled with symbolism. I believe that this "new name" refers to believers co-heirship with Christ.

Love,
Madeline

[Technosoul]

Of course we know that Peter (the rock) was a new name assigned. Not sure of the history behind changing names other then the last name of some girl getting married.

Now on the horses in the Book of Revelation you can note different names on each of the four of them. Representing Jesus. Who is also named Christ and even "god" by some folks. One name is "The Word".
Another name is the "holy ghost or the indwelling spirit of truth". Another name we assigned was "savior" but that might also have been the translated meaning of the word "Jesus" given by Mary... "savior of men".

Now my speculation is that if the "rock" is the foundation of the church and if as that story suggested the rock is based on a revelation (not by the teachings of men) then the "Indwelling Spirit" would be the new name because that is the source of a revelation on behalf of God.

However Madeline put it correctly... allegorical. None the less Jesus departed so that God could send the spirit and that might be the spirit of Jesus who would dwell within you and whom you would dwell within. And that spirit is also the new Word because a revelation is the word "as the law will be written upon the hearts of men" ... as apposed to a book.

"take no script with you (scripture) for in the hour you need to say or do something the spirit will reveal it too you".... those were the instructions given. (in effect... not word for word).

The spirit of the departed Jesus dwelling within the heart as the word which guides us in co-heirship with the Christ consciousness.

This idea came to me from out of the blue and might not be authorized by your offical Sunday School teacher.

[Jack]

Jee-zuz: it's hip, urban, cool. And it looks good as graffiti.
Jesus H. Christ: In honor of his god-father.
Jiminy Cricket: More like a nickname. Conjures up an image of a small insect who dances like Dick Van Dyke.

[Kuldeep]

Quote by: Battig1370 In Rev.3:12, it is written that "I will write on him My New Name" The "I" written here is Jesus. So what is Jesus New Name?

Both Madeline and Technosoul have used a word "Revelation"

I shall try to use this word "Revealation" to explain what Jesus meant by writing "I will write on him My New Name"

Jesus has got this name just like any other person has got it from parents or mentors. If the mentor would have given a different name say Mr. X to the baby Jesus then name of Jesus would have been Mr. X. Thus the real name is neither Jesus nor Mr. X and even not anything else. Therefore, Jesus meant to say that he wanted to REVEAL his Real Self (New Name) instead of name (Jesus) given by his mentor.

To my mind, this Real Self (New Name) is some peculiar feeling of existence that a person is something (Ultimate Consciousness) in reality. Due to ignorance, the Ego of self (Individualistic Consciousness) in the form of induividual say in his case is "Jesus" as individual. But after revealation of the reality, Jesus has been able to erase the ignorance of individuality (Individual Consciousness) and found Universal Consciousness existing within his own self. Or, in other words he found his true self in whole universe and even beyond!!!! So. after that revealation, he did not remain Individual Jesus but turned into Universal Consciousness (The New Name) which can be named by God or Something beyond the conception of our senses.
In such a stage the Individuality or duality vanishes. What remains is the Universal Consciousness, The New Name!!!!!!!

[Battig1370]

Hello Kuldeep,


I like your description on how Jesus has received His New Name.

["he did not remain Individual Jesus but turned into Universal Consciousness (The New Name) which can be named by God or Something beyond the conception of our senses"]

Because Jesus the man overcame selfishness/self-centeredness with love, He became glorified together with His Father with the glory He had with His Father before the world was. For this Jesus was granted His New Name which is Lord God Almighty.

Christian think/believe that Jesus is still the Lamb of God, the Christ which means the Messiah. Christians do not know, or cannot accept that Jesus' New Name is Lord God Almighty.

[Technosoul]

My new name is Technosoul ... not my birthname.

But at any rate if you are happy with a new name for Jesus being the Lord God Almighty then you got the answer you wished for.

But don't tell his "Father in heaven" or perhaps you can? Son like Father. Perhaps we can use Lord God Almighty Jr. So we know who is who.

[Kuldeep]

Simple, they merge into one!! I do not have any confusion at the least. Ingnorance of duality vanishes, once you acieve that stage!!!

[Battig1370]

Hello Kuldeep,


From what you write, you have a wisdom that many do not have.

Are you familiar with chapter 17 in the gospel according to John?

The theme of this chapter is that we can become one with Jesus as He became One with His God.

[Kuldeep]

Quote by: Battig1370 Hello Kuldeep, I like your description on how Jesus has received His New Name..

Thanks anyway!

Christian think/believe that Jesus is still the Lamb of God, the Christ which means the Messiah. Christians do not know, or cannot accept that Jesus' New Name is Lord God Almighty.

I am sorry for their ignorance! I can only pray for their wisdom!

[Kuldeep]

Quote by: Battig1370 Hello Kuldeep, From what you write, you have a wisdom that many do not have.

Neither you nor I, can be the real judge to decide, who has wisdom and who do not have! One thing is very clear to me, if one thinks with a unbiased mind and with no prejiduce in mind, wisdom shines through that thinking.

Are you familiar with chapter 17 in the gospel according to John? The theme of this chapter is that we can become one with Jesus as He became One with His God.

Sorry, I am not familiar with that reference. Theme is defintely a fact, which is equivalent to what is said in "Kashmiri Shivaism". Being myself Kashmiri, I have just heard about it from my father, my spiritual guide.

I do not know why of it!!! But, I think more and read less. Any time, when I start reading anything about sprituality, I feel all this has been already known to me and so I never fully read to completion!!

[Battig1370]

Hello Technosoul,

The Name of Jesus' God is Jesus' New Name. Jesus who is Him who sits on the throne introduced Himself to John with His New Name saying, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. > Rev. 21:5-7, in Rev. 1:8 > "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End ," says the Lord, "who is and who was and who is to come, The Almighty.", and in Rev. 1:18 Jesus said, "I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore."

[Jack]

"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. who is and who was and who is to come, The Almighty. I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore."

Jesus is easier to remember and fits better on a business card.

[Osborn F Enready]

I just talked to Jesus, and he said people should just get off his jock.

[Kakumei]

Quote by: Battig1370 Hello Technosoul, The Name of Jesus' God is Jesus' New Name. Jesus who is Him who sits on the throne introduced Himself to John with His New Name saying, "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. > Rev. 21:5-7, in Rev. 1:8 > "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End ," says the Lord, "who is and who was and who is to come, The Almighty.", and in Rev. 1:18 Jesus said, "I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore."

Usually when it talks about God Almighty or The Almighty, it is in reference to God the Father, and Lord God, or the Lord thy God, it reffers to the Son.

[Winter wind]

So what is Jesus New Name?

Stu Winkle?

Honestly I laughed so hard when watching this. But I guess the only valid response is a quote
"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."

What difference does it make what Jesus' name is?

[Kakumei]

Quote by: Winter wind Stu Winkle? Honestly I laughed so hard when watching this. But I guess the only valid response is a quote "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet." What difference does it make what Jesus' name is?

And thus the voice of reason has come, with a point that has no point to be argued with.
I agree. Lol.

[Wol]

Quote by: Isherwood Jee-zuz: it's hip, urban, cool. And it looks good as graffiti. Jesus H. Christ: In honor of his god-father. Jiminy Cricket: More like a nickname. Conjures up an image of a small insect who dances like Dick Van Dyke.

Be nice Ish LOL

[keter]

Since the whole story of our salvation is a coronation in history, and considering how many times the word "stephanos" (crown of laurel for a winner) appears in the Bible, especially in The Book of Revelation, even associated with the new name of the Lord and His Bride (the soul), just like a true goal for us at the end of this tribulation time, I argue that maybe Stephen could be the new name of the Lord, at His return in the human, visible flesh.
Even the first martyr had this name, and he was the only to see -just before death- the Son of The Man STOOD UP on the right of His Father.
Recently, the actual Pope had remainded how the actual Church began with Saint Stephen, the first stone of the terrestrial holy building. So, why couldn't the circle complete itself, and Christ himself take this name, in the end?

Obviously, the new name could be revealed only at the parousia.

[phoenix_fire]

I don't think it's that simple.

God: I'm tired of the name "Jesus".
Jesus: Oh?
God: Yeah...let's try something new and different. How 'bout Steve?

Naw. Don't see it.