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Anarchist Patriot · Oct 11, 2003, 02:18 am

...what would it be?

Seriously....

Now mine would be along the lines of this...

There is one God. God commands us to love and respect one another. War is evil and should be avoided. Don't steal, lie, commit adultry or kill. All people are equil in the sight of God. We will all be judged according to our deeds. Our reward in heaven depends on what we did on earth. There is no real damnation but really bad people won't get as many goodies as those who are good.

Any thoughts?

Section 8 · Oct 11, 2003, 02:52 am

Buddhism. They definently got it right. No killing, stealing, etc. and no belief in God. You're your own God, there is no higher power. End attachment over material possessions. Use meditation to become one with yourself.

Fallen Angel · Oct 11, 2003, 03:03 am

I already have my beliefs firmly in place.

Section 8 · Oct 11, 2003, 03:04 am

FA, what about Buddhism, although I don't think you would be a very good match. You love Okham's razor to much.

Fallen Angel · Oct 11, 2003, 03:11 am

Quote:

Originally posted by Section 8@10-11-2003 03:04 AM
FA, what about Buddhism, although I don't think you would be a very good match. You love Okham's razor to much.

Love what?

Section 8 · Oct 11, 2003, 03:12 am

Okham's razor, the philosophy that the simplest philosophy is best.

Fallen Angel · Oct 11, 2003, 03:14 am

Quote:

Originally posted by Section 8@10-11-2003 03:12 AM
Okham's razor, the philosophy that the simplest philosophy is best.

Well anything that needs too much explaining is usually bullshit, I'll probably agree with you on that.

Section 8 · Oct 11, 2003, 03:16 am

So are you saying that if something is complicated (Buddhism) and requires an indepth path in order to achieve nirvana. Are you saying that something simple (Christianity) and judges you only by your beliefs is more logical. Good things take time and are more complicated.

Fallen Angel · Oct 11, 2003, 03:20 am

Quote:

Originally posted by Section 8@10-11-2003 03:16 AM
So are you saying that if something is complicated (Buddhism) and requires an indepth path in order to achieve nirvana. Are you saying that something simple (Christianity) and judges you only by your beliefs is more logical. Good things take time and are more complicated.

Being good is pretty simple actually, you don't have to understand much if you don't lie, cheat, steal, slander or covet.
Also take responsibility for your own actions no matter what will happen, there is nothing complicated about any of the above, you just have to be willing to do it.

xm.bretton · Oct 11, 2003, 08:15 am

Quote:

Originally posted by Section 8@10-11-2003 02:52 AM
Buddhism. They definently got it right. No killing, stealing, etc. and no belief in God. You're your own God, there is no higher power. End attachment over material possessions. Use meditation to become one with yourself.

christianity is fine...

if its followed correctly.

you dont need to take every word and memorize and follow it to the letter. its more about principles that straight up laws. the biggest principle being love. everything you do should be out of love... you would never steal if you loved everyone because it would hurt the person you stole from. you could never kill someone you loved. you couldnt be greedy because you would always wanting to help ones you love. etc. etc.

GreatWyrm of Babylon · Oct 11, 2003, 04:35 pm

I already have invented my own religion, that is what I follow...

Section 8 · Oct 11, 2003, 05:42 pm

GWB, could you please describe the relgion to us?

dannyp · Oct 11, 2003, 06:24 pm

Section 8: i read your posts and noticed your sig and it seems like buddhism ideals would work well for you, some people need a higher structure to conform to [ by higher i'm saying an external driving force] cause some people don't have enough power within themselves ( at least they do not think they do ).

I personally would have a cross between many religions and ways of thinking, beacuse thats how reality is.. its just not one way. Even if you think you can use one example to determine everything, you just cannot. I'm in the continuous persuit to discover which is most fulfilling, and I have so far found that being open to all religions, forming my own disposition is the best way to go, and that works best for me.

If I would make the ideal reality or community that believes in what I do, I think I would have it exist similarly to how the world [and universe] actually is, varying greatly. Apparently being chaotic, but at the same time be connected at so many levels that its ridiculous. I could see why God would do this ;D

GreatWyrm of Babylon · Oct 11, 2003, 08:04 pm

Each must find his own path and allow others to find theirs in peace. The only thing to be asked of others is that they do not impede your personal pursuit. Each person's religion is understandable by that individual alone, and irrelevant as long as he only uses it to affect his own choices. If another starts to make your decisions for you based on his religion, conflict is inevitable.

Section 8 · Oct 11, 2003, 08:12 pm

GWB, what happens if someone believes in brutal killing and raping, what would happen then. Other than that i beilieve this was for ur own personal religion, so what would u be?

GreatWyrm of Babylon · Oct 11, 2003, 08:38 pm

Brutal killing and raping impedes the path of another does it not? Do you not know me well enough yet to figure out that pacifist is not one of my attributes??

Fallen Angel · Oct 12, 2003, 01:35 am

I don't know GWR, your theory on Your religon doesnt seem to have anything brutal to test it, keeping faith with what you believe in under duress even your own life, or familys being taken because of it is the true test of what you believe in, otherwise if you fail that test your faith becomes redundent.

Section 8 · Oct 12, 2003, 01:54 am

But by stopping the killers, than you're impeding on their beliefs.

Fallen Angel · Oct 12, 2003, 02:32 am

I was refering to being given a choice of keeping your religon and dying, or giving lipservice to another and surviving
This is taking place in quite a few parts of Indonesia, the largest Muslim nation in the world at the moment..

Section 8 · Oct 12, 2003, 02:32 am

The comment that I made was directed toward GWB. Sorry for the confusion.

Oct 11, 2003, 04:35 pm	#11 (permalink) (top)
GreatWyrm of Babylon Avatar of Tiamut Location: Dallas, Texas (Irving) Posts: 848	I already have invented my own religion, that is what I follow... Logical Fallicies Link

Oct 11, 2003, 06:24 pm	#13 (permalink) (top)
dannyp projects himself Posts: 130	Section 8: i read your posts and noticed your sig and it seems like buddhism ideals would work well for you, some people need a higher structure to conform to [ by higher i'm saying an external driving force] cause some people don't have enough power within themselves ( at least they do not think they do ). I personally would have a cross between many religions and ways of thinking, beacuse thats how reality is.. its just not one way. Even if you think you can use one example to determine everything, you just cannot. I'm in the continuous persuit to discover which is most fulfilling, and I have so far found that being open to all religions, forming my own disposition is the best way to go, and that works best for me. If I would make the ideal reality or community that believes in what I do, I think I would have it exist similarly to how the world [and universe] actually is, varying greatly. Apparently being chaotic, but at the same time be connected at so many levels that its ridiculous. I could see why God would do this ;D projectdp.com :: thinktankforums.com

Oct 11, 2003, 02:18 am	#1 (permalink) (top)
Anarchist Patriot Molten Ash Posts: 143	...what would it be? Seriously.... Now mine would be along the lines of this... There is one God. God commands us to love and respect one another. War is evil and should be avoided. Don't steal, lie, commit adultry or kill. All people are equil in the sight of God. We will all be judged according to our deeds. Our reward in heaven depends on what we did on earth. There is no real damnation but really bad people won't get as many goodies as those who are good. Any thoughts?

Oct 11, 2003, 02:52 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	Buddhism. They definently got it right. No killing, stealing, etc. and no belief in God. You're your own God, there is no higher power. End attachment over material possessions. Use meditation to become one with yourself.

Oct 11, 2003, 03:03 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
Fallen Angel Igneous Magma Location: Sydney,Australia. Posts: 333	I already have my beliefs firmly in place.

Oct 11, 2003, 03:04 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	FA, what about Buddhism, although I don't think you would be a very good match. You love Okham's razor to much.

Oct 11, 2003, 03:12 am	#6 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	Okham's razor, the philosophy that the simplest philosophy is best.

Oct 11, 2003, 03:16 am	#8 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	So are you saying that if something is complicated (Buddhism) and requires an indepth path in order to achieve nirvana. Are you saying that something simple (Christianity) and judges you only by your beliefs is more logical. Good things take time and are more complicated.

Oct 11, 2003, 05:42 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	GWB, could you please describe the relgion to us?

Oct 11, 2003, 08:04 pm	#14 (permalink) (top)
GreatWyrm of Babylon Avatar of Tiamut Location: Dallas, Texas (Irving) Posts: 848	Each must find his own path and allow others to find theirs in peace. The only thing to be asked of others is that they do not impede your personal pursuit. Each person's religion is understandable by that individual alone, and irrelevant as long as he only uses it to affect his own choices. If another starts to make your decisions for you based on his religion, conflict is inevitable.

Oct 11, 2003, 08:12 pm	#15 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	GWB, what happens if someone believes in brutal killing and raping, what would happen then. Other than that i beilieve this was for ur own personal religion, so what would u be?

Oct 11, 2003, 08:38 pm	#16 (permalink) (top)
GreatWyrm of Babylon Avatar of Tiamut Location: Dallas, Texas (Irving) Posts: 848	Brutal killing and raping impedes the path of another does it not? Do you not know me well enough yet to figure out that pacifist is not one of my attributes??

Oct 12, 2003, 01:35 am	#17 (permalink) (top)
Fallen Angel Igneous Magma Location: Sydney,Australia. Posts: 333	I don't know GWR, your theory on Your religon doesnt seem to have anything brutal to test it, keeping faith with what you believe in under duress even your own life, or familys being taken because of it is the true test of what you believe in, otherwise if you fail that test your faith becomes redundent.

Oct 12, 2003, 01:54 am	#18 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	But by stopping the killers, than you're impeding on their beliefs.

Oct 12, 2003, 02:32 am	#19 (permalink) (top)
Fallen Angel Igneous Magma Location: Sydney,Australia. Posts: 333	I was refering to being given a choice of keeping your religon and dying, or giving lipservice to another and surviving This is taking place in quite a few parts of Indonesia, the largest Muslim nation in the world at the moment..

Oct 12, 2003, 02:32 am	#20 (permalink) (top)
Section 8 Hot Lava Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 782	The comment that I made was directed toward GWB. Sorry for the confusion.