What do women get out of relatonships

[pam699]

In another post there was some agreement that women exchange sex for goods
But why do they exchange sex for goods -if they wanted sex why then charge for it seems to not make sence
guys want sex but not charge for it so why would women if they wanted sex
this opens the question JUST WHAT DO WOMEN GET OUT OF MARRAGE OR RELATIONSHIPS - IF CHARGE MARRIAGE OR A RELATIONSHIP FOR SEX

[Mia]

We charge for sex because we can. Men are stupid. They will give us things in exchange for something we want to do anyway - why not take advantage?

[Slevin57]

I'm not really sure what kind of relationship your talking about....But I dont' have to bribe my girlfriend for sex. Do you?

[pam699]

to mia
not as simple as that Mia the exchange of goodS by men is the way the femalE animal chooses the more success full alpha males JUST LIKE THE BOWR BIRD-it is a symbol of many things which the female animal requires before she f..ks
just watch female cats or birds pick the mate with the right symbols-buying drinks says one biig thing ie ie he has money -which by Mia is one reasons she f..k a guy
and one reason why guys want money and the big care ie the booty girrls with rapers- all a symbol of a succesful survier -good for the genes

you see Mia at the level of the animal guys run rings around girls they are far from stupid in fact the girls are the stupid ones because the guys exactly know what the female human prosituite wil do for sex so the guys just do what they know the studid girl will se as some symbol of success and wmmy hes in bed with her
i mean how many stuoid girls gow through this mateing dance only to realise they picked a dickhead-but at the animale level a very cuny and inteligent duixckhead because he has got to f..k her with bullsh.t clothed in the right symboll to con the girl

but
What do women get out of relatonships

[Eclipse]

Half of the guys stuff if they're not careful.

Quote by: Slevin57 I'm not really sure what kind of relationship your talking about....

I'm not too sure either.

Relationships, from my perspective, have always been a fairly equal and honest experience. Men get things out of a relationship as well. Not always in the form of sex.

Quote by: pam699 the exchange of goodS by men is the way the femalE animal chooses the more success full alpha males

Females don't always choose the more successful. Chimps are a prime example. The dominant male does not get more sexual access. Females choose who they want.

buying drinks says one biig thing ie ie he has money -which by Mia is one reasons she f..k a guy

Buying a drink gives them an ear and a place to sit. The girl sometimes takes the drinks and leaves anyway. Sometimes displays a bit of gullibility or drunkedness and basically results in a free beer dispenser.

and one reason why guys want money and the big care ie the booty girrls with rapers- all a symbol of a succesful survier -good for the genes

Money isn't everything. They usually have something (ie brains or charisma) to get them the money in the first place. If not, it doesn't usually work unless the girl is there purely for the money.

you see Mia at the level of the animal guys run rings around girls they are far from stupid in fact the girls are the stupid ones because the guys exactly know what the female human prosituite wil do for sex so the guys just do what they know the studid girl will se as some symbol of success and wmmy hes in bed with her

A prostitute isn't exactly a relationship. It's a product. They get money for it.

i mean how many stuoid girls gow through this mateing dance only to realise they picked a dickhead-but at the animale level a very cuny and inteligent duixckhead because he has got to f..k her with bullsh.t clothed in the right symboll to con the girl

Can you rephrase that please?

[pam699]

but
What do women get out of relatonships-i come on do we have to spend 300 post defining relationship
simplifying
say marraige or a bf gf relationship -just use your common sence
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Females don't always choose the more successful. Chimps are a prime example. The dominant male does not get more sexual access. Females choose who they want.

lookslike chimps have dickhead males to who pulll the wool of the stupid females
yes women choose who they want
but only based upon symbols they see as ndicating sucess
look we all know evolution is about perpetuating and spreading the best genes so women at the gene level will choose what they think are the best gene-the social symbols they choose will be for those reasons ie money cloths stutas powr they will protitiute themselves so they get vthe best genes as symbolised by their cultures symbols

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i mean how many stupid girls go through this mateing dance only to realise they picked a dickhead-but at the animal level a very cunning and inteligent dickhead because he has got to f..k her with bullsh.t clothed in the right symbollsto con the girl- and that is what it is all about- f.king to spread the best percieved genes

if we are animales then our mating habbits will be like all animales -to get the best genes and human femels prostitute themselves for these genes and guys bull. sh. t them by manipulating the smbols so their genes are the one that are spread VERY SIMPLE WHEN YOU SEE US AS JUST ANIMALES

women can get security from relationships because at the animal level she needs a guy to be around to help bring up the kids -love is the hook she tryies to get men to feel to stay around with her THAT IS ONE REASON


ANY MOTRE

[Eclipse]

but What do women get out of relatonships-i come on do we have to spend 300 post defining relationship simplifying say marraige or a bf gf relationship -just use your common sence

Well, you were talking about prostitutes and whatnot, what were we supposed to assume?


Okay, so that happens at times. Girls get "conned". Guys get "conned".

What do women get out of a relationship? Usually what they want if they have any say. That's why they go in. Same thing goes for men. They both strive for something they want. Attraction is a form of what your mind and/or body wants in one form or another.

Why are symbols shite? Fancy clothes look good but the person makes it work. Money comes with the ability to get money. Obviously it is success in these cases. They're not always the way things go. Some people prefer a humble or mediocre life. Success is a flexible word.

And yes we are animals, our mating habits are comparable.

[pam699]

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[Eclipse]

Pejorative.

While I may see some form of coherence with reality at a few miniscule moments in the introductory paragraphs themselves, I have a hard time seeing the conclusions while looking at it holistically.

I doubt I need to read further but I may if I must. I don't have the time tonight.

[Mia]

I did not say I have sex for money - you missed my point entirely. If women want to have sex with a man anyway, and he buys her things trying to get something he thinks he has to pay for....then the woman gets it all. Sex and good gifts or whatever.

You can't expect a serious answer to such a poorly written opening post containing fallacies.

The OP asks an answers its own question. You said money is what women get.

[pam699]

yes but it seems and u did say u will sometimes f..k a guy who buys you drinks-is that because it is some symbol of good genes ie scucessful surviver in regard to our societies values

[Kuldeep]

Women gets sexual satisfaction as men get in addition to security as you have put it in a relation like marriage/family life. Casual sexual plays between a male and females out side the relation is nothing but fulfillment of sexual urge. Exchange of monetary vaues, gifts and entertainment come out of relation development. In that both men and women might or might not achieve something. This varies from case to case!!!!!

[pam699]

so why do they want security
and how does a relationship give it to them

[Praxius]

Quote by: Mia We charge for sex because we can. Men are stupid. They will give us things in exchange for something we want to do anyway - why not take advantage?

Well you just ruined your chances with me

What do women get out of all of it? Beats me..... which is why I'm single now and I don't plan on getting into another relationship for a long time.... I wasn't understanding what I was getting out of it, so until I do, why bother?

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Praxius Well you just ruined your chances with me

LOL, me too! :eek:

[Matt W]

What does anyone get out of a relationship? Incredibly difficult to define, given that it, at a very fundamental level, satisfies us somehow. Security? Probably. Sex? You'd hope so. Warm fuzzy feelings? Yeah, probly.

*shrugs* At the end of the day, it's a genetic thing. You either like being in a relationship, or you don't - and if you don't, you move on.

[pam699]

what security does it give you

[Matt W]

Depends on the type of relationship. Marriage certainly can provide financial security.

*shrugs* Life is malleable, and people are different. People get different kicks out of different things. Deal with it.

[pam699]

gee sure a wife will like to know her hubby is with her for the money

[Zinkovich]

Note: This is all based on what I learnt in my recent evolutionary psychology class. I am not asking you to accept this post as much as I am trying to describe what seems to be the current mainstream anthropological opinion on this matter. Sources are pending until I can speak with my professor about getting some of these sources and experiments/studies from her or using her notes in my post.

Marraige originally started for twofold reasons, according to the current mainstream views of most anthropologists:

1.) The desire of males to ensure the passing on of thier seed.
2.) The female's original need for financial or emotional security.

There are many aspects of human behavior across cultures that support both of these points and differences in outlook dependant on gender. in the case of females, studies show that females almost invariably look for somebody both emotioanlly and fincancially stable in a relationship- however, this attitude seems to be distinctly declining with the arisal in femal employment. Males almost invariably have an instinctual if not concious attraction to large breasts and hips- both qualities of a fertile female more capable and likely to give birth to a child.

The statistics concerning infidelity for females and males sharply diverge as well, although these studies might be less reliable than others on similar topics. For males, it is reported to be nearly as high as 80 percent, while in females, it is almost invariably much lower. There can be two instinctual reasons for this, one supporting my above assertions of males having an instinctual urge towards passing on the genes for reasons I will give later, and the other not. Those would be:

A.) The participants are lying in order to conform to some cultural ideal or image
B.) The males are more likely to have more sex outside of marraige based on instinctual sexual behavior(duh)

This would make perfect sense if one is to believe mating behaviors are the results of evolution in the same practical sense as biology. For a female, loyalty of a mate is much more biologically important as she can not take a shotgun approach to passing on her genes. During her period of pregnancy, support is of the utmost importance as well as comfortability and a constant source of food and nutrition. For the male(note, we are speaking of the precedent of primitive rather than modern socities, here), there is no need for security and he can have as many children as possible without worrying about any incapacation during the birth process. He loses less genetically in taking on many potential mates and leaving them to fate/the mother.

Even in the wild, similar distinctions exist in primate relationships. Nearly always, there is a difference between how the female and the male select a mate, and what occurs when the mate takes on a preivously deceased mates' child. In orangatuans and other primates, the males nearly always kill the last males children, while the female seems to support them as if they were her own. When food is less abundant, a male is more likely to take on numerous mates rather than a single one, while a female might be more likely to select whichever mate has the most food.

Most of these behaviors are not observed being exhibited in some primitive form by egg-laying species, providing further support for this idea of the biological precedent being supplied by the mammalian form of giving birth to offspring.

Edit: If anyone likes, I could cover territorial behaviors and thier support of these premises as well, but I wanted to get past the basics first to see if anoyone is interested rather than offended(as some classmates were, although they could not/did not refute that they conform to most of the differentiations of behavior mentioned in these statistics) by this.