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Derach · Mar 20, 2007, 02:27 pm

no - I define prostitution as the exchange of sex for cash .... My wife has never done that

5010 · Mar 20, 2007, 03:10 pm

It is presumptuous to claim that every woman in a sexual relationship is only offering sex as a commodity. Other reasons can be pleasure or expressions of love or recreation or mutual desire for children.

But even when sex is used as a commodity within a serious relationship, there is a moral difference over the commodity used indiscriminately. If legitimate children fared the same as illegitimate children, then there would be no basis for the moral difference.

pam699 · Mar 20, 2007, 03:25 pm

the definition just says charge for sex = prostitution
if this takes place even in serious relationship it is prositution

u see you cant just change a definition bevause u dont like it
i mean u murder some one but tell the judge it aint murder bebause you define murder differenty to the law-want get you very far
i mean bush and his linguistic pragmatists might change definition they dont like to suit their aggendas like torture but even then people know they are just absuing coommon sence and attempting to hoodwink people
but us plebs are just stuck with the dictionbasry
so like it or not your wife is a prostitute if she charges in any way for sex

Derach · Mar 20, 2007, 03:40 pm

You can call my wife what you like, I said she feels it is appropriate in all encounters with people, including sometimes sexual favors with me, to seek 'an equal exchange of energy' ... the definition of prostitution you are so strictly bound to is not an 'exchange' of anything, but a 'charge' ... why don't you bust out your 'English to whatever-native-language-you-use' dictionary and see the difference between 'exchange' and 'charge' and liken it to Bill Clinton's definition of the word 'is' if you like, but to me, that is not prostitution ... and at the end of the day, if and when push comes to shove, my wife would not mind putting your definition up against hers 'mano a mano' so to speak .... (look it up, unless it's your native toungue already)

Praxius · Mar 20, 2007, 04:34 pm

I think the big issue here is the seperation between men and women and who's the real slut.

Both sexes want sex..... women want it just as much as men, they just don't talk about it as much or were oppressed at a young age about sex. It all depends on how you look at it.

In my view, nobody is a slut... whether you never slept with anyone, slept with only one person, or had a gangbang every night, each person's life is different and the things those people like varies from individual. I know people who are faithful to one person and has sex regularly, and I don't see them as a slut. I also known some people who liked to stay out of a relationship and just go out for the sex (one night stands, so to speak) but I don't call them a slut..... that's their preference. They are still good people to talk and hang out with, they don't try and infringe on anybody else's lifestyles..... all in all, they're good people..... it's just some have different fetises, wants, desires, or none at all.

The closest I can label someone as a slut, once again, is if they use sex to get what they want, rather then personal pleasure.... ie: all those booty women who hang out with the rappers, with the fancy cars and the bling bling...... catch my drift?

5010 · Mar 20, 2007, 04:37 pm

Nah, t'ain't sluts. They's gold diggas.

pam699 · Mar 20, 2007, 04:38 pm

u say
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I can label someone as a slut, once again, if they use sex to get what they want, rather then personal pleasure...

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so wifes and gf who use sex to get married or a relationship are as much sluts as the booty women-it was your definition not mine

Alive · Mar 20, 2007, 04:51 pm

Yeah, I expect that's how humans evolved. Sex is not that valuable to women because they can only benefit from it once every 8 months or so, and pregnancy is very expensive. Sex is more valuable to guys because it's cheap and they gain unlimited benefit from having sex with additional women. So it makes sense for women to charge for sex in exchange for goods, to equalize the exchange.

Men also value female monogomy, because it ensures that the kid is theirs. Men will give some goods in exchange for female sex, and many more goods in exchange for female monogomy. We call the later case "marriage".

pam699 · Mar 20, 2007, 04:56 pm

sounds like prostitution on the part of the women to me

Praxius · Mar 20, 2007, 05:04 pm

Quote:

Quote by: pam699

u say
quote
I can label someone as a slut, once again, if they use sex to get what they want, rather then personal pleasure...

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so wifes and gf who use sex to get married or a relationship are as much sluts as the booty women-it was your definition not mine

Technically I might say yes, but if they are holding out on sex until they are married, then they really don't know what they are holding out on...... selling a product they never tried, so to speak.

If a woman holds out until she is married for the sake of security in life, then yeah..... slutty, I suppose.

Then again, if they are holding out just as their own choice, or by religious standards, then I don't think it would apply as being a slut/prostitution.

A slut is basically kinda too hard to pin on one type of person or life-style, which is why I don't bother to label anybody it.

Correction:

the only time I would call a girl a slut is if they cheated on me.... esspecially if I didn't know about it :eek:

Mar 20, 2007, 03:10 pm	#22 (permalink) (top)
5010 mostly harmless Location: USA Posts: 1,284	It is presumptuous to claim that every woman in a sexual relationship is only offering sex as a commodity. Other reasons can be pleasure or expressions of love or recreation or mutual desire for children. But even when sex is used as a commodity within a serious relationship, there is a moral difference over the commodity used indiscriminately. If legitimate children fared the same as illegitimate children, then there would be no basis for the moral difference. - solo (my site)

Mar 20, 2007, 04:37 pm	#26 (permalink) (top)
5010 mostly harmless Location: USA Posts: 1,284	Nah, t'ain't sluts. They's gold diggas. - solo (my site)

Mar 20, 2007, 04:38 pm	#27 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	u say quote I can label someone as a slut, once again, if they use sex to get what they want, rather then personal pleasure... . so wifes and gf who use sex to get married or a relationship are as much sluts as the booty women-it was your definition not mine Last edited by pam699; Mar 20, 2007 at 04:39 pm. Reason: add

Mar 20, 2007, 02:27 pm	#21 (permalink) (top)
Derach Igneous Magma Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 433	no - I define prostitution as the exchange of sex for cash .... My wife has never done that

Mar 20, 2007, 03:25 pm	#23 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	the definition just says charge for sex = prostitution if this takes place even in serious relationship it is prositution u see you cant just change a definition bevause u dont like it i mean u murder some one but tell the judge it aint murder bebause you define murder differenty to the law-want get you very far i mean bush and his linguistic pragmatists might change definition they dont like to suit their aggendas like torture but even then people know they are just absuing coommon sence and attempting to hoodwink people but us plebs are just stuck with the dictionbasry so like it or not your wife is a prostitute if she charges in any way for sex

Mar 20, 2007, 03:40 pm	#24 (permalink) (top)
Derach Igneous Magma Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 433	You can call my wife what you like, I said she feels it is appropriate in all encounters with people, including sometimes sexual favors with me, to seek 'an equal exchange of energy' ... the definition of prostitution you are so strictly bound to is not an 'exchange' of anything, but a 'charge' ... why don't you bust out your 'English to whatever-native-language-you-use' dictionary and see the difference between 'exchange' and 'charge' and liken it to Bill Clinton's definition of the word 'is' if you like, but to me, that is not prostitution ... and at the end of the day, if and when push comes to shove, my wife would not mind putting your definition up against hers 'mano a mano' so to speak .... (look it up, unless it's your native toungue already)

Mar 20, 2007, 04:34 pm	#25 (permalink) (top)
Praxius Mass'Debator Posts: 4,730	I think the big issue here is the seperation between men and women and who's the real slut. Both sexes want sex..... women want it just as much as men, they just don't talk about it as much or were oppressed at a young age about sex. It all depends on how you look at it. In my view, nobody is a slut... whether you never slept with anyone, slept with only one person, or had a gangbang every night, each person's life is different and the things those people like varies from individual. I know people who are faithful to one person and has sex regularly, and I don't see them as a slut. I also known some people who liked to stay out of a relationship and just go out for the sex (one night stands, so to speak) but I don't call them a slut..... that's their preference. They are still good people to talk and hang out with, they don't try and infringe on anybody else's lifestyles..... all in all, they're good people..... it's just some have different fetises, wants, desires, or none at all. The closest I can label someone as a slut, once again, is if they use sex to get what they want, rather then personal pleasure.... ie: all those booty women who hang out with the rappers, with the fancy cars and the bling bling...... catch my drift?

Mar 20, 2007, 04:51 pm	#28 (permalink) (top)
Alive Human Posts: 679	Yeah, I expect that's how humans evolved. Sex is not that valuable to women because they can only benefit from it once every 8 months or so, and pregnancy is very expensive. Sex is more valuable to guys because it's cheap and they gain unlimited benefit from having sex with additional women. So it makes sense for women to charge for sex in exchange for goods, to equalize the exchange. Men also value female monogomy, because it ensures that the kid is theirs. Men will give some goods in exchange for female sex, and many more goods in exchange for female monogomy. We call the later case "marriage".

Mar 20, 2007, 04:56 pm	#29 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	sounds like prostitution on the part of the women to me