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Old Mar 19, 2007, 11:31 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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R humans a dumb ass species we have ablity to get knowldge but not wisdom to use it

Are humans a dumb ass species we have the ablity to get knwledge but not the wisdom to use it
for example with all our techno-scientific wiz band knwldege the earth is on the verge of ruin enviromentally

our scientists have the knowledge to spilt the atom but we are on the verge of countries nuking each other
our medical experimenter can cut the DNA but know we are mixing animal DNA with humans and breeding these hybrid embryos

all in all the march of scientific etc progress is only sending us to potential ruin as a speces and planet is that because we realy are a dumb ass species
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 11:35 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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I used to think the human species was good and intellegent.

Then I read this post.
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 11:44 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Based on what ideal? What standard do you measure us against?

Unless you devise a means to give humans perfect foreknowledge, all our discoveries and inventions go through a phase where we try to figure out how best to use this new thing and what negative effects it may have. It may take us a while to uncover the potential uses and abuses. We are imperfect beings, incapable of producing perfection. In many contexts we aren't even agreed on what the perfect is.

What alternative can you suggest? Should we stop innovating? Should we all become Luddites? Electricity kills hundreds of people every month. Should we abandon electricity?

I would suggest we're not exactly a dumb-ass species, we're just not perfectly smart. We're fallible, we make mistakes, then we try harder the next time not to repeat our mistakes. Sometimes we get it right, sometimes we don't. Regardless of how you perceive humanity, we're the only humanity we've got. If you desire perfection, you'll need to search elsewhere.


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Old Mar 19, 2007, 11:54 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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well there are many religous myths ir grek prometheus the tower of babel etc which warns of man trying to ape the gods and the ruin that he will reap if he tries to become god-like ie aquire god-like knowledge with out the wisdom to use it

religions have warned of this since the begining of time and now it seems there warnings are comming to pass -becaus ewe are a dumb ass specises without the wisdom to use our knowldege as the myths and religions have said
so now we are on the verge of enviromental generic and cultural ruin

and dont forget the great christan myh of eating of the tree of knowdege-that was the work of the devil -and look if the myth is true the devil has got his way by giving this dumb ass species knowledge-our ruin

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Old Mar 19, 2007, 12:22 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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I prefer to be God-like. Our quest is to explore and learn. You quest seems to be that of chicken little.


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Old Mar 19, 2007, 12:33 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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but are we a dumb ass species without the wisdom to use the knwledge -as may myths say

we all can see we are heading for ruin due to our eating of the tree of knowldege
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 12:59 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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I thought we were heading for ruin because we are burning the tree of knowledge?
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 01:10 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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no it all started when the devil seduced eve to get adam to eat the apple of knowldege so the devil could send us to ruin because we r just a dumb ass species with no wisdom to use the knowldge -what do you think ARE WE A DUMB ASS SPECIES
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 01:21 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Yet those religious myths you cite were also written by those you call dumb-ass. Whether or not our species is too stupid for its own good is an opinion. Your's seems different than mine. But we have no other objective standard of "human" to compare us to.


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Old Mar 19, 2007, 01:22 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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We are animals, plain and simple, we are no better or worse than other animals.


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Old Mar 19, 2007, 01:28 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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but those dumb ass myth makers where wise enough to see the end of knowledge for humans who as a speces have no wisdom but just dumb assess
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 01:33 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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no it all started when the devil seduced eve to get adam to eat the apple of knowldege so the devil could send us to ruin because we r just a dumb ass species with no wisdom to use the knowldge -what do you think ARE WE A DUMB ASS SPECIES
Two (rhetorical) questions:

1.) Why does everyone always think it was an apple?

2.) Why does everyone always leave off the other part of the name of the tree? It really changes the meaning, you know.



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Old Mar 19, 2007, 01:34 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Those dumb ass myth makers are still churning myths. You would need at least a little wisdom to know or identify a dumb ass myth maker wouldn't you?

Who claims the myth makers had the wisdom to see the end of knowledge.

I think it is more of a case that the myth makers want to suppress wisdom and knowledge by making sheeple out of potential humans.


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Old Mar 19, 2007, 01:38 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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but they did see the ruin we are facing becuase of our quest for knowldge with out wisdom so they where not dumb but wise
more than we can say for the dumb ass species e are just heading to our ruin-as the mythg makers could see clearly
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 01:51 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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And the ones who wrote those myths were not human? And out of every invention that can cause great harm (for example the A-bomb), often much more good comes out of it (nuclear power). Or if you are not a big fan of nuclear powerplants then the sword is a good example too. (knifes for making food/ axes for cutting trees, and swords for killing).

Take away all inventions that could possibly cause harm and we would be nowhere, still living like apes.
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 02:08 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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yes but would u rather be living -even if like an ape-than be an extinct species
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 02:11 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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what is interesting about your argument is we may all just end up living like apes once our knowldege f..ks the enviroment and we have an enviromental holocost which sends us back to the caves- al because we r a dumb ass specesis with pleanty of knowldge but no wisdom
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 02:20 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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what is interesting about your argument is we may all just end up living like apes once our knowldege f..ks the enviroment and we have an enviromental holocost which sends us back to the caves- al because we r a dumb ass specesis with pleanty of knowldge but no wisdom
We might, but we might just end up as godlike beings.. or what we today would percive as that. Anyway its in the nature of man to not settle for what he has, which is exactly the reason why we are dominant on this earth. If we dident invent stuff we would probably be long extinct either way. Even apes uses sticks and rocks as tools.

It might be safer to just not invent stuff anymore and settle, and if we where an immortal species we might do just that. But we are not, we will all die anyway, so what have we got to loose?
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 02:42 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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yes but being a dumb ass species we might just die sooner than we would have
sorta funny dont you think that the cockcroach species might out last humans

time might just show cockcroaches where not as dumb ass as humans
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 02:46 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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We might, but we might just end up as godlike beings.. or what we today would percive as that. Anyway its in the nature of man to not settle for what he has, which is exactly the reason why we are dominant on this earth. If we dident invent stuff we would probably be long extinct either way. Even apes uses sticks and rocks as tools.

It might be safer to just not invent stuff anymore and settle, and if we where an immortal species we might do just that. But we are not, we will all die anyway, so what have we got to loose?
I disagree, we bacame extremely succesful long before we became technological. we spread to a few more regions afterward, but for the most part we were just as widespread as we were before civilisation.


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