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Old Mar 19, 2007, 03:48 pm   #21 (permalink) (top)
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yes but being a dumb ass species we might just die sooner than we would have
sorta funny dont you think that the cockcroach species might out last humans

time might just show cockcroaches where not as dumb ass as humans
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 03:50 pm   #22 (permalink) (top)
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They already have, and they most likely will. they've been around far longer than all large animals have.


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Old Mar 19, 2007, 04:37 pm   #23 (permalink) (top)
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I disagree, we bacame extremely succesful long before we became technological. we spread to a few more regions afterward, but for the most part we were just as widespread as we were before civilisation.
Before civilisation perhaps, but not before inventions. Using stones to crack open a coconut or making an electric blender to slice food follows the same principal.
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 04:39 pm   #24 (permalink) (top)
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yes but being a dumb ass species we might just die sooner than we would have
sorta funny dont you think that the cockcroach species might out last humans

time might just show cockcroaches where not as dumb ass as humans
If you count intelligence in how long a species can survive, then yes.
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 04:41 pm   #25 (permalink) (top)
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Chimps do the same thing though, with the stone, so why are they not so successful? We are not alone in our invention making, just the scope, and we were successful long before the blender. It was our adaptability that did it for us.


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Old Mar 19, 2007, 04:41 pm   #26 (permalink) (top)
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phoenix fire,

The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.

pam669,

If you want to be truly philosophical regarding the nature of the tree, consider this. By consuming the fruit of the tree, mankind gained knowledge of how to create life. In doing so, he acquired the drive to preserve that life as well. Man became mortal.

Every technological advance in human history comes from the drive to preserve life. Whether it's the atomic bomb or the computer, every single intellectual accomplishment has served to enhance human survival.

Collectively, humans are hardly "dumb ass." Unfortunately, some selections from humankind inspire more of those sentiments than others. There are also those who represent the true exceptions to your vague and misguided comment.

I would challenge you to better clarify what you mean by "dumb ass." I apologize for sounding derogatory, but your use of adolescent slang hardly defines a position on the quality of humankind.
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 04:46 pm   #27 (permalink) (top)
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Are humans a dumb ass species we have the ablity to get knwledge but not the wisdom to use it
for example with all our techno-scientific wiz band knwldege the earth is on the verge of ruin enviromentally

our scientists have the knowledge to spilt the atom but we are on the verge of countries nuking each other
our medical experimenter can cut the DNA but know we are mixing animal DNA with humans and breeding these hybrid embryos

all in all the march of scientific etc progress is only sending us to potential ruin as a speces and planet is that because we realy are a dumb ass species

Please do not take offense to this question... I'm genuinely curious: Is English your first language? If not, what is... and are you using an online translator to make your posts?
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 04:49 pm   #28 (permalink) (top)
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yes but being a dumb ass species we might just die sooner than we would have
sorta funny dont you think that the cockcroach species might out last humans

time might just show cockcroaches where not as dumb ass as humans

I find it ironic that you type the way you do and then call us a "dumb ass species".


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Old Mar 19, 2007, 05:11 pm   #29 (permalink) (top)
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I used to think the human species was good and intellegent.

Then I read this post.
Understandable conclusion, but I think you mean *intelligent*.


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Old Mar 19, 2007, 05:18 pm   #30 (permalink) (top)
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Please do not take offense to this question... I'm genuinely curious: Is English your first language? If not, what is... and are you using an online translator to make your posts?
I guess you've missed this discussion. I am pretty sure that this poster is doing it on purpose.



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Old Mar 19, 2007, 05:24 pm   #31 (permalink) (top)
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I guess you've missed this discussion. I am pretty sure that this poster is doing it on purpose.
Well I'm just as curious why pam finds it OK to fill the site with many similar threads, all of which contain very poor grammar and mistakes that are easily correctable. Seems like a matter of effort, unless Zhavric is on to something.


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Old Mar 19, 2007, 06:02 pm   #32 (permalink) (top)
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hey it is because i am a dumb ass human
and your objections are bevuase you are all dumb ass humans lol
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 06:14 pm   #33 (permalink) (top)
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Okay, now you're just trolling

To me, the root cause of all the issues you bring up is the unequal division of finite resources we find here on earth we see in all cultures. If there was no need for exceptional amounts of oil, if there was no need to get rid of competition, these things would have never come about.

I see the bad of technology, but I feel the good is too great to do away with the risk. You're ignoring the numerous examples of people getting to live who would have died otherwise.

...and nature? It's more violent and cruel and short than anything found in modern culture. At any moment, you're entire clan could wiped out painfully by disease, or mauled in the night by an elephant. I say the more we move away from nature and the farther away we get from these natural laws that some people believe necessitate this warlike behavior, the better.


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Old Mar 20, 2007, 11:30 am   #34 (permalink) (top)
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hey it is because i am a dumb ass human
and your objections are bevuase you are all dumb ass humans lol
Please answer my question regarding your first language. If you do not answer in your next post, I will assume you are simply here to troll the site and take appropriate action.
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Old Mar 20, 2007, 11:37 am   #35 (permalink) (top)
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my first language is english -but so what a dysletics might be english to -so the answer say very little
you all feeling a bit threatened by the power of my bad grammer logic and looking for an excuse to ban me

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Old Mar 20, 2007, 12:15 pm   #36 (permalink) (top)
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my first language is english -but so what a dysletics might be english to -so the answer say very little
you all feeling a bit threatened by the power of my bad grammer logic and looking for an excuse to ban me
This ties into your meaningless number thread; you can't be banned until you reach the number 10.

So, numbers do have value; don't they. (attempt at humor-please don't take this seriously)


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Old Mar 20, 2007, 12:23 pm   #37 (permalink) (top)
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hahaha
not saying they dont have value just that know one knows what they are-and please if u are going to start agian first just tell us what an irrational nuimber is and point to root 2 on a real line
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Old Mar 20, 2007, 12:35 pm   #38 (permalink) (top)
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The first proof of the existence of irrational numbers is usually attributed to Hippasus of Metapontum[2], a Pythagorean who probably discovered them while identifying sides of the pentagram[3]. However Pythagoras believed in the absoluteness of numbers, and could not accept the existence of irrational numbers. He could not disprove their existence through logic, but his beliefs would not accept the existence of irrational numbers and so, as legend had it, he had Hippasus drowned. Theodorus of Cyrene proved the irrationality of the surds of whole numbers up to 17, but stopped there probably because the algebra he used couldn't be applied to the square root of 17[4]. It wasn't until Eudoxus developed a theory of irrational ratios that a strong mathematical foundation of irrational numbers was created[5]. Euclid's Elements Book 10 is dedicated to classification of irrational magnitudes.
Pi is irrational. Irrational numbers have been known for centuries; as to the square root of 2 on a line; pick any spot and call that point the square root of 2, its just to the left of Pi.


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Old Mar 20, 2007, 12:39 pm   #39 (permalink) (top)
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first just tell us what an irrational nuimber is
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# A number that cannot be represented as an exact ratio of two integers. For example, the square root of 2.
csmp.ucop.edu/cmp/resources/glossary.html

# decimal number that never ends, never repeats (Ex: pi)
library.thinkquest.org/2647/geometry/glossary.htm

# (179) A triangle with at least two sides congruent.
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# a real number whose decimal representation neither repeats nor terminates; may also be defined as a real number which cannot be expressed in fraction form as a/b where a and b are Integers (eg, both Ö2 and π are irrational)
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# A number that cannot be written as a simple fraction. It is an infinite and nonrepeating decimal. Examples are "pi" and the square root of two.
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# A number that cannot be expressed as an exact fraction. One example is pi. Most irrational numbers are also uncomputable.
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# a real number that cannot be expressed as a rational number
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# In mathematics, an irrational number is any real number that is not a rational number, i.e., one that cannot be written as a ratio of two integers, i.e., it is not of the form
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point to root 2 on a real line
That's not a property of irrational numbers. You might as well ask someone to give you the last 3 digits of Pi. Ain't going to happen. If that's the crux of your argument, you're being unreasonable, literally.


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Old Mar 20, 2007, 12:43 pm   #40 (permalink) (top)
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sorry picking any point and calling it root 2 want work cos root 2 is an irrational number u have to show me the last number to the right of the point before u can show mr root 2 i
and yes the greeks decided to call an irrational number not a number to get out of their logical problem
we now define it to be a number but still left with the greeks original problems
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