What is intelligence

[pam699]

What is intelligence
to say someone is intelligent such as a scientist lawyer doctor etc is to say what
i mean can a person be intelligent in say physics but a dumb ass in EVERYYYYYYTHING else if so why do we call them intelligent


i was told a story by a officer in the police force about a chicked stealer -they could not work out how he stoll the chickens from the hen house at night with out any noise-come on how you think it was done



well he used a pipe full of hot water the chicken sat on it to get warm and he just ulled them out -the police could not work that out



so where the police dumb and the ghetto educated chicken stealer more inteelligent than university educated policemen

i mean can a person be intelligent in say physics but a dumb ass in EVERYYYYYYTHING else if so why do we call them intelligent
so what is intelligence

[Athena]

Intelligence is not what we know, but the ability to learn. We have many highly intelligent young people, who think intelligence is what they know, and then they do nothing with their intelligence, except maybe steal from others.

They are parasites to the society upon which they feed. This is a waste of their ability to learn and to make a social contribution. They can drag down their civilization and enough of them can destroy their civilizations. Even the village idiot needs to know his value to society, and what he can contribute to others. People who understand values are as important as those with the intelligence of professionals, and intelligent people without values and morals, are more worthless than those with low IQ's.

I repeat, so this is perfectly clear.

INTELLIGENCE IS THE ABILITY TO LEARN, NOT WHAT THE INDIVIDUAL KNOWS.

[pam699]

SO IF I CANT LEARN PHYSICS BUT CAN LEARN TO PLAY MARBLES AM I AS INTELIGENT AS THE PHYSICIST- u did say it is not what you know

[Mozart1220]

Intelligence is using punctuation and capital letters when posting a message for others to take seriously.

[pam699]

hey u nevertheless understod the post so no need to do what yu said
but getting back to athena n

SO IF I CANT LEARN PHYSICS BUT CAN LEARN TO PLAY MARBLES AM I AS INTELIGENT AS THE PHYSICIST- u did say it is not what you know

any comment

[Gods_Mercenary]

Physics is a far more complex subject, requiring more ability in thought and calculation, so the physicist is far more intelligent.

[pam699]

but if he cant work out how to steal that chicken is he as intelligent as the dumb ass ghetto thiief

and wat if the pysicist was dumb in everything else is he still as intelligent as the all rounder secondary school kid who learn sanskrit cooking painting carpetnary making a sand castle etc all of which the physicit cant do

[Gods_Mercenary]

Sanskrit? That's pretty complex. Does the student do all of these very well?

[Athena]

Quote by: pam699 SO IF I CANT LEARN PHYSICS BUT CAN LEARN TO PLAY MARBLES AM I AS INTELIGENT AS THE PHYSICIST- u did say it is not what you know

Let me see, are you arguing that I said the inability to learn to something is intelligence?

[Athena]

Quote by: pam699 hey u nevertheless understod the post so no need to do what yu said but getting back to athena n SO IF I CANT LEARN PHYSICS BUT CAN LEARN TO PLAY MARBLES AM I AS INTELIGENT AS THE PHYSICIST- u did say it is not what you know any comment

When people can not spell and do not use good grammar, and like me, habitually leave out words, we loose credibility. It is irresponsible to make sloppy post. When our standards are low, we are putting too much responsibility on the reader to figure out what are wanting to say and our meaning. Creative people often do this, because they are using their right brain, and the right brain is a lousy editor of spelling and rules. On the other hand, those who are left brain dominant, may completely lack a sense of meaning when they read or write.

There are different forms of intelligence and what makes us superior to other animals is our ability to organize ourselves, so we can take advantage of all forms of intelligence. Autocracy relies the intelligence of a few people. Democracy relies on the intelligence of many people.

To be really intelligent is to know no one does not know it all, and therefore, and practices good manners, good judgement and justice, encouraging a group effort with modesty in recognizing one's own limits.

[pam699]

but i mean can a person be intelligent in say physics but a dumb ass in EVERYYYYYYTHING if so why do we call them intelligent

can a school jkid learn to play hopscotch but not phhysics -so wat is inteligence
if the physists cant learn hopscotch but the kids can is the physist not as intelligent as the kid-what is intelligennce

and was the ghetto chicken thief nmore inteliigent than the university eductated police who could not work out how he stoll the chickens-what is inteligence

[Mozart1220]

Quote by: pam699 but i mean can a person be intelligent in say physics but a dumb ass in EVERYYYYYYTHING if so why do we call them intelligent can a school jkid learn to play hopscotch but not phhysics -so wat is inteligence if the physists cant learn hopscotch but the kids can is the physist not as intelligent as the kid-what is intelligennce and was the ghetto chicken thief nmore inteliigent than the university eductated police who could not work out how he stoll the chickens-what is inteligence

Intelligence is putting your hand on a hot stove, and deciding that it was a bad idea, and you should avoid that activity at all cost.


This rules out our president as a candidate.

[Zinkovich]

Quote by: pam699 but i mean can a person be intelligent in say physics but a dumb ass in EVERYYYYYYTHING if so why do we call them intelligent can a school jkid learn to play hopscotch but not phhysics -so wat is inteligence if the physists cant learn hopscotch but the kids can is the physist not as intelligent as the kid-what is intelligennce and was the ghetto chicken thief nmore inteliigent than the university eductated police who could not work out how he stoll the chickens-what is inteligence

Psychology demonstrates that we use different parts of our mind for different activites. Considering this, you can be intelligent in one area but unintelligent in the other, depending both largely upon the biological structure of your own mind and also slightly upon how often you use certain parts of it(recent discoveries show your neuron move around and change and form depending on how you use them, albeit in a rigid and slow manner).

[pam699]

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Psychology demonstrates that we use different parts of our mind for different activites. Considering this, you can be intelligent in one area but unintelligent in the other, depending both largely upon the biological structure of your own mind and also slightly upon how often you use certain parts of it(recent discoveries show your neuron move around and change and form depending on how you use them, albeit in a rigid and slow manner).


SO WHAT IS INTELLIGENCE

[fushigi]

Intelligence is the ability to acquire knowledge and use it for some productive purpose. The more knowledge one can acquire, and the more of that knowledge one can apply towards some productive purpose, the more intelligent that person is.

Knowledge is the sum of facts learned through observation.

A productive purpose is anything that modifies the system an organism lives in towards that organism's physical or mental advantage.

pam, your confusion seems to be related to the fact that you believe the pursuit of knowledge and the pursuit of a productive purpose are in some way mutually exclusive. That's a false dilemma. You can have your cake and eat it too, or, in your words, understand physics and play hop scotch. (In fact, a thorough knowledge of physics will complement one's ability at hop scotch, and vice versa.)

Any questions?

[pam699]

quote but if he [physisits] cant work out how to steal that chicken is he as intelligent as the dumb ass ghetto thiief

and wat if the pysicist was dumb in everything else is he still as intelligent as the all rounder secondary school kid who learn cooking painting carpetnary making a sand castle etc all of which the physicit cant do

[fushigi]

Quote by: pam699 quote but if he [physisits] cant work out how to steal that chicken is he as intelligent as the dumb ass ghetto thiief and wat if the pysicist was dumb in everything else is he still as intelligent as the all rounder secondary school kid who learn cooking painting carpetnary making a sand castle etc all of which the physicit cant do

Who says a physicist can't do those things?

[pam699]

i am asking what if he was hypothetical -not all physists are good at chicken stealing the ones that aint any good r they as intelligent as the theif

look the point i am making which you all seem to agree with is that in any culture people arbitaryly single out occupations as being more worthy than others
you only say the physist is more inteligent than the theif because he contributes in a very spectaular way

why do u all equate intelligence with what our society values

in a theives society the physists even though he could make a bomb would be considered dumb if he could not steal a chicken

intelligence in our society is an abitary lable based upon what we value

in usa in the 1900s they used IQ test to measure the inteligence of imagrintS one test had a phone but because the pesent from an area where there are no phones did know what is was he was consider dumb-THEY USED THE SAME TRST TO SHOW NEGROS WHERE DUMB - IQ testS are al about what a culture values and just like intelligence are equated with what WE VALUE

[fushigi]

Quote by: pam699 in usa in the 1900s they used IQ test to measure the inteligence of imagrintS one test had a phone but because the pesent from an area where there are no phones did know what is was he was consider dumb-THEY USED THE SAME TRST TO SHOW NEGROS WHERE DUMB - IQ testS are al about what a culture values and just like intelligence are equated with what WE VALUE

I won't point out the irony of you lamenting the way we evaluate intelligence after struggling to read this post.

However, I'll repeat that your diatribe complements my earlier explanation that intelligence is the ability to acquire knowledge and use that knowledge to positively affect one's environment.

Physicists produce more benefits for our society than chicken thieves, so we value their abilities more. Furthermore, it takes more knowledge to be a physicist than to be a chicken thief.

Finally, I don't think our society fails to note the intelligence of people who provide little benefit for our society. The phrase "criminal mastermind" wouldn't have been created otherwise.

[pam699]

quote Physicists produce more benefits for our society than chicken thieves, so we value their abilities more.

but r the more less intelligent than the chicken theives if they cant work out how to theive chickens
as i say in a society of chicken theives the physicit is dumb

but u dont answer the question why is a physicist consider more intelligent than a chicken theif even though he may not have the intelligence to work out how to theive chickens
is itelligence a meaningless term only indicating a cultures arbitary value system