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pam699 · Mar 15, 2007, 03:20 pm

Is feminisim a tool of capitalism as this poem says Is that why most feminmists hate this poem

http://gamahucherpress.yellowgum.com.../poetry/45.pdf

pam699 · Mar 15, 2007, 08:29 pm

well has any one read the poem and got a comment about the post

PatrickHenry · Mar 15, 2007, 11:23 pm

I think the poem is about the regrets of aging...

I saw nothing about feminism being the tool of capitalism. More like that a feminist drives away manly lovers and when she's old, she's alone...

pam699 · Mar 16, 2007, 02:04 am

any other different view surly the apothegem outlines clearly that feminism is a tool of captialism

**Jack** · Mar 16, 2007, 02:52 am

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any other different view surly the apothegem outlines clearly that feminism is a tool of captialism

This sentence makes no sense, and as far as I can determine, "apothegem" is not a word.

PatrickHenry · Mar 16, 2007, 03:09 am

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Quote by: Isherwood

This sentence makes no sense, and as far as I can determine, "apothegem" is not a word.

It's a section of the poem she wants us to talk about. Here:

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APOTHEGM
Feminism you fool
Nothing but capitalisms tool
Get um out to work
Out of the home
Baby off the tit
Kids in a crèche
We can’t have the economic system crash
Turn um into men power suits short hair
Offer them power money all men’s lair
Feed um up on feminism
Give um ideology you fool
Then the system will power capitalisms tool
Teach the girls early that men are bastards true
Teach the girls early that money power is their due
Turn them against men compete love their ruin true
They will have it true every thing the lot except a lovers woo
Give um ideology you fool
Then the system will power capitalisms tool

I quoted the section so you don't have to load a 24-page .pdf document.

But that's not what the poem's really about.

Anyhow I think I am done with this thread. Pam doesn't seem like the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree...

pam699 · Mar 16, 2007, 03:22 am

well if i have got it wrong please correct me i am ready to learn what the poems is about please tell me

**Jack** · Mar 16, 2007, 03:24 am

We're supposed to debate the writing of a poet as if he were making profound statements about society? I still say E. E. Cummings did it better and earlier. And his cut&paste poetry was fairly nonsensical as a result, too.

pam699 · Mar 16, 2007, 03:28 am

well if i have got it wrong please correct me i am ready to learn what the poems is about please tell me
ee cummings cut and paste sure but within the cut and pastes his was gammaticaly correct with correct spellings-read deans anti-poetry manifesto in another post about the aesthetics of malapoprisms

**Jack** · Mar 16, 2007, 03:44 am

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the aesthetics of malapoprisms

Are there any?

pam699 · Mar 16, 2007, 04:03 am

yes deans aesthetics of anti-poetry manifesto -go read some poems u mighjt get a new experience and a new aesthetics

pam699 · Mar 17, 2007, 01:50 am

well has any one read the poem so they can point out if i am wrong in my assessment

**Jack** · Mar 17, 2007, 01:54 am

You have failed to make reading them an appealing possibility.

I can't help but think of a freind coming up to me and saying, "I think I stepped in some dog poop. Would you smell the bottom of my shoe and tell me if I did?" No matter how much I liked him, chances are I'd pass up that opportunity.

pam699 · Mar 17, 2007, 01:56 am

why have i qoute u

You have failed to make reading them an appealing possibility.

pam699 · Mar 19, 2007, 03:00 am

so come on WHY DO FEMINISTS HATE THIS POEMS

Zinkovich · Mar 19, 2007, 04:14 am

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Quote by: pam699

so come on WHY DO FEMINISTS HATE THIS POEMS

Where are you getting this from? Have a news article, or a source for that claim?

pam699 · Mar 19, 2007, 04:41 am

from word of mouth from feminists who have read it and told me they hate it
they say because it make fun of germaine greer saying she sold out to take HRT so she could still f..k her bf
and that is makes fun of women who get on the career path make money have powr pathg at the expense of thier kids and own well being -ie they f..k weak men who dont threaten them but end up not respecting them and ending alone in bed reading the naked unuck remebering the good olds days when it was not published and they where in love

atheist · Mar 20, 2007, 09:40 pm

why does it matter if feminists hate this poem or not? what's the point?

pahl · Mar 20, 2007, 09:56 pm

Of course feminists would hate it. It basicly tells them that only men should try to get good jobs and that they are being manipulated to think that they would want the same thing.

Mar 15, 2007, 03:20 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	Is feminisim a tool of capitalism as this poem says Is feminisim a tool of capitalism as this poem says Is that why most feminmists hate this poem http://gamahucherpress.yellowgum.com.../poetry/45.pdf

Mar 15, 2007, 11:23 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,455	I think the poem is about the regrets of aging... I saw nothing about feminism being the tool of capitalism. More like that a feminist drives away manly lovers and when she's old, she's alone... "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Mar 16, 2007, 03:24 am	#8 (permalink) (top)
Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,209	We're supposed to debate the writing of a poet as if he were making profound statements about society? I still say E. E. Cummings did it better and earlier. And his cut&paste poetry was fairly nonsensical as a result, too. The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

Mar 17, 2007, 01:54 am	#13 (permalink) (top)
Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,209	You have failed to make reading them an appealing possibility. I can't help but think of a freind coming up to me and saying, "I think I stepped in some dog poop. Would you smell the bottom of my shoe and tell me if I did?" No matter how much I liked him, chances are I'd pass up that opportunity. The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

Mar 20, 2007, 09:40 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
atheist life junkie Location: CA Posts: 142	why does it matter if feminists hate this poem or not? what's the point? Sin is salvation. Without "sin" there wouldn't be a concept for "purity" and without a concept of "purity" one wouldn't be able to enter "heaven."

Mar 15, 2007, 08:29 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	well has any one read the poem and got a comment about the post

Mar 16, 2007, 02:04 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	any other different view surly the apothegem outlines clearly that feminism is a tool of captialism

Mar 16, 2007, 03:22 am	#7 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	well if i have got it wrong please correct me i am ready to learn what the poems is about please tell me

Mar 16, 2007, 03:28 am	#9 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	well if i have got it wrong please correct me i am ready to learn what the poems is about please tell me ee cummings cut and paste sure but within the cut and pastes his was gammaticaly correct with correct spellings-read deans anti-poetry manifesto in another post about the aesthetics of malapoprisms

Mar 16, 2007, 04:03 am	#11 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	yes deans aesthetics of anti-poetry manifesto -go read some poems u mighjt get a new experience and a new aesthetics

Mar 17, 2007, 01:50 am	#12 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	well has any one read the poem so they can point out if i am wrong in my assessment

Mar 17, 2007, 01:56 am	#14 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	why have i qoute u You have failed to make reading them an appealing possibility.

Mar 19, 2007, 03:00 am	#15 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	so come on WHY DO FEMINISTS HATE THIS POEMS

Mar 19, 2007, 04:41 am	#17 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	from word of mouth from feminists who have read it and told me they hate it they say because it make fun of germaine greer saying she sold out to take HRT so she could still f..k her bf and that is makes fun of women who get on the career path make money have powr pathg at the expense of thier kids and own well being -ie they f..k weak men who dont threaten them but end up not respecting them and ending alone in bed reading the naked unuck remebering the good olds days when it was not published and they where in love

Mar 20, 2007, 09:56 pm	#19 (permalink) (top)
pahl Igneous Magma Location: Sweden Posts: 261	Of course feminists would hate it. It basicly tells them that only men should try to get good jobs and that they are being manipulated to think that they would want the same thing.