What do you think of this theory of anti-poetry

[pam699]

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS THEORYA stream of poetry that runs counter to all Australian poetry is that of Australia's version of anti-poetry. This anti-poetry, represented by its founder Colin leslie Dean , is characterised by a complete dismissal of all linquistic conventions.

The Aesthetics of Anti-Poetry Manifesto: Poetry Criticism by an Anti-poet] lays out the theory of Australian anti-poetry.

http://gamahucherpress.yellowgum.com...antipoetry.pdf


This anti-poetry is complelty iconaclastic in its abusive use of language. It seeks to rupture language. It breaks the rules of grammar syntax and spelling. Where Dada sought to be anarchic and undermine conventions it nevertheless adheared to linquistic conventions in that it followed correct usage when it was trying to convey meaning.

Australian anti-poetry goes beyound dada in that it purposely creates discords of meaning via incorrect spelling, grammar and sytax. These discords lead to the invention of new meanings, new words, neologisms, antonyms, homonyms, homonymographs etc. Anti-poetries malapropisms ingauge the reader in an interactive exchange of creativity and the invention of language. Where Australiain poets have been the slave to a dead language via its rules Anti-poetry, by its notions of linguistic incorrectnes - makes language the slave of the poet. Where language, via correct usage, has become dead, atrophied and ossified in the hands of Australian poets, anti-poetry in Colin leslie Dean's version is meant to revolutionise language and make it live again and breath new breaths of inspiration which takes the reader into unexplored regions of creativity new ways of seeing and new melodies and sounds. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS THEORY

[5010]

I wouldn't give Mr Dead credit for inventing something already known as 'poetic license'.

[pam699]

yes but a poetic licence which underminies most theories of poetics and goes against the grain of most poetry ever written

[SoccerfreakAB2]

So don't write in an anti-poetic style. Besides the clear differences you have with it. What else is wrong with "anti poetry?"

[Lullaby Chainer]

I love it..

I especially love this one..

As swans shiney black across the purple sheen made their way
Woodlands spread wide as through the leafy glad my love did glide

[pam699]

well at least you read the manifesto see you got something from it

[Jack]

I think Dean is predated by E. E. Cummings.

[pam699]

when i read ee cummings i dont see malapoprisms

[Jack]

And that's relevant how, to what?

[pam699]

to deans radical break from pc poetry and his revolutionbary approach to a new aesthetic ee cummings was just a typical good boy writing pc poetry for his peers and the universities-to afriad that if he mispelt he would go unrecognised

[Jack]

Conventions in writing were established to make communicating ideas easier for the reader. I don't mind nonconformists, but I don't especially appreciate them either. They're novel and unusual, but if I can't comprehend the subject they're writing about, if the mis-spellings and their avoidance of common grammar make them unintelligible, what's the point? Anyone can write unconventionally, it takes no skill to type as you please with no regard for comprehension. Some people may appreciate poetry written like that, just like some people can appreciate abstract art. There's a commonality between people who can "see" images in abstract paintings and those who can find "deep meaning" in structureless prose. While I occasionally see an abstract painting that interests me, I'm too much an old-school writer to appreciate someone who favors form over function when writing to communicate a thought or idea.

[pam699]

yes nothing wrong with your view but have you read any of deans poems

[fushigi]

Quote by: C Dean The appreciators of poetry cannot appreciate Anti-poetry, since they are in the straight jacket of correct English. To appreciate Anti-poetry one must abandon the notions of correct English... Down with poetry. Rise up Anti-poetry.

He's not radical enough. We should also stop using alphabetic letters and numeric characters... we should be able to freely create our own writing systems and then smash even those... in fact, even writing at all is too conformist... we should return to spoken poetry like Homer... no even that's too conformist... only grunting, unintelligible grunting in coffee shops with no microphone... no even making sound is too conformist, we should all just be silent...

Perhaps you find this logic annoying, but it's all to prove a point.

This is the problem with revolutionaries. They always encourage us to smash the established order, but as soon as we start smashing their ideas they become reactionary.

[pam699]

yes dean says anti-poetry is against what ever is in fashion if anti-poetry becomes fashionable then there should be a anti-poetry against ant-poetry

[fushigi]

Quote by: pam699 yes dean says anti-poetry is against what ever is in fashion if anti-poetry becomes fashionable then there should be a anti-poetry against ant-poetry

So the revolution would never end.

But in the meantime, it would produce a lot of poetry, plus it'd be interesting since most poetry is pretty boring.

But I think a lot of the poetry would be like this:

i hate anti-poetry
river glen its all the same
i'm going to spell this word right intentionally: rhapsody
take that c dean
I'm even going to appropriately capitalize and punctuate this sentence.

[pam699]

hahahahah very cleaver i see deans work has inspired a poem What more can any poet hope but to be some elses muse

[fushigi]

Quote by: pam699 hahahahah very cleaver i see deans work has inspired a poem What more can any poet hope but to be some elses muse

You're evil, and you know it.

[pam699]

hahahahaaha

[Milton Bradley]

Aussies like anything that massacres the Queens English.

[pam699]

yes good point but all aussie poets are very pc when it comes to the language of poetry -look up the term wowser -coined by a great austtralian observer called denis