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pam699 · Mar 15, 2007, 12:35 pm

does nihilisim make philosophy at an end

Osborn F Enready · Mar 15, 2007, 03:27 pm

Not at all.

We all create our own philosophy, and I believe philosophy is a reflection of, and the contents of our "soul".

Some adopt philosophies, some discover them through trial and error.

Either way, philosophy will be with us as long as their are humans, who can communicate at some level, by art, language or other means.

Osborn F Enready · Mar 15, 2007, 03:31 pm

I would reccommend reading "the Romantic Manifesto" by Ayn Rand.

That most closely mirrors MY philosophy.

I arrived at my philosophy on my own, only discovering Rand after the fact.

After reading some of Rands work, I can't help but feel as though I am her in some metaphysical way, since she so eloquently stated my thoughts long before I was even capable of having thoughts, before conceived, in fact.

It is a connection of philosophy, of soul, of the combination between subjective and objective.

Philosophy will never die, except in the individual minds who choose to make it so. Even then they are in denial of their own ability to make and morph existing philosophies on the fly, in everyday life and actions.

pam699 · Mar 15, 2007, 07:28 pm

you should rerad colin leslie deans work on meaninglessness of alllll views -that might open your eyes to the fact that philisophy is over

Osborn F Enready · Mar 15, 2007, 08:09 pm

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pam699 said:
you should rerad colin leslie deans work on meaninglessness of alllll views -that might open your eyes to the fact that philisophy is over.

Well, opinions are like assholes. You only have to live with your own.

pam699 · Mar 15, 2007, 08:21 pm

now that was a lively comment

Osborn F Enready · Mar 15, 2007, 08:32 pm

I wasn't trying to be derogatory, but to make the point that we all make our own choices, influenced by our individual philosophies, which in turn affect our actions, which we must live with individually.

Regardless of what the "collective says", we all make our own choices, and many will bear the values of philosophy long after any collective deems it "dead".

Chaossaber314 · Mar 15, 2007, 08:42 pm

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Quote by: Osborn F Enready

Well, opinions are like assholes. You only have to live with your own.

Yes, but they also all stink!

Osborn F Enready · Mar 15, 2007, 08:52 pm

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Chaossaber said:
Yes, but they also all stink!

Depends on who you ask. Rumsfeld didn't think Bush's stank. Libby and Rove seem pretty complacent with the aroma of the Cheney cavern.

jascowhiz0 · Mar 16, 2007, 12:39 am

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does nihilisim make philosophy at an end

Only to those who subscribe to that. But philosophy will always exist as long as someone has a differing view.

If I understand nihilism correctly we can't know the truth, but yet its true we can't know the truth.

Duke1985 · Mar 16, 2007, 12:50 am

philosophy's not dead, it just smells funny.

Philosophy can keep going until the entire planet runs out of ideas and everyone decides to agree on one thing and we make a law saying that one thing is it, its final, and philosophy is off limits for discussion now.

Seeing as all of those things seem highly unlikely, our little buddy philosophy is doing just fine.

Osborn F Enready · Mar 16, 2007, 03:04 am

Isn't the idea that philosophy is dead, a philosophy?

pam699 · Mar 16, 2007, 03:10 am

yes and dean claims it ends in meaninglessness
so tel us what is left of philosophy when it will always end in self-contradction or meaningless Perhaps we should stop thinking then and just eat shit and sleep

Osborn F Enready · Mar 16, 2007, 03:11 am

Man can't stop thinking, anymore than animals can partake in art.

pam699 · Mar 16, 2007, 03:15 am

only philosophers think the rest just survive

Osborn F Enready · Mar 16, 2007, 03:24 am

My cat is not a philosopher, and it thinks, or did, when it was alive and well.

That is proveable, not the "my cat" part, but the "cat" part.

pam699 · Mar 16, 2007, 03:33 am

it thinks about purely survial things not about philosophical questions

Alive · Mar 16, 2007, 04:03 am

Was philosophy ever not over?

pam699 · Mar 16, 2007, 04:19 am

well dean claims it is becuase it just ends in self-contradiction or meaninglessness

Osborn F Enready · Mar 16, 2007, 02:01 pm

Dean seems to be an imbecile as well as in denial of nature.

Mar 15, 2007, 12:35 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	is philosophy over does nihilisim make philosophy at an end

Mar 15, 2007, 03:27 pm	#2 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873	Not at all. We all create our own philosophy, and I believe philosophy is a reflection of, and the contents of our "soul". Some adopt philosophies, some discover them through trial and error. Either way, philosophy will be with us as long as their are humans, who can communicate at some level, by art, language or other means. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Mar 15, 2007, 03:31 pm	#3 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873	I would reccommend reading "the Romantic Manifesto" by Ayn Rand. That most closely mirrors MY philosophy. I arrived at my philosophy on my own, only discovering Rand after the fact. After reading some of Rands work, I can't help but feel as though I am her in some metaphysical way, since she so eloquently stated my thoughts long before I was even capable of having thoughts, before conceived, in fact. It is a connection of philosophy, of soul, of the combination between subjective and objective. Philosophy will never die, except in the individual minds who choose to make it so. Even then they are in denial of their own ability to make and morph existing philosophies on the fly, in everyday life and actions. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Mar 15, 2007, 08:32 pm	#7 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873	I wasn't trying to be derogatory, but to make the point that we all make our own choices, influenced by our individual philosophies, which in turn affect our actions, which we must live with individually. Regardless of what the "collective says", we all make our own choices, and many will bear the values of philosophy long after any collective deems it "dead". Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Mar 16, 2007, 03:04 am	#12 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873	Isn't the idea that philosophy is dead, a philosophy? Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Mar 15, 2007, 07:28 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	you should rerad colin leslie deans work on meaninglessness of alllll views -that might open your eyes to the fact that philisophy is over

Mar 15, 2007, 08:21 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	now that was a lively comment

Mar 16, 2007, 12:50 am	#11 (permalink) (top)
Duke1985 The Duke Location: Michigan Posts: 308	philosophy's not dead, it just smells funny. Philosophy can keep going until the entire planet runs out of ideas and everyone decides to agree on one thing and we make a law saying that one thing is it, its final, and philosophy is off limits for discussion now. Seeing as all of those things seem highly unlikely, our little buddy philosophy is doing just fine.

Mar 16, 2007, 03:10 am	#13 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	yes and dean claims it ends in meaninglessness so tel us what is left of philosophy when it will always end in self-contradction or meaningless Perhaps we should stop thinking then and just eat shit and sleep

Mar 16, 2007, 03:11 am	#14 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873	Man can't stop thinking, anymore than animals can partake in art. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Mar 16, 2007, 03:15 am	#15 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	only philosophers think the rest just survive

Mar 16, 2007, 03:24 am	#16 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873	My cat is not a philosopher, and it thinks, or did, when it was alive and well. That is proveable, not the "my cat" part, but the "cat" part. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready

Mar 16, 2007, 03:33 am	#17 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	it thinks about purely survial things not about philosophical questions

Mar 16, 2007, 04:03 am	#18 (permalink) (top)
Alive Human Posts: 679	Was philosophy ever not over?

Mar 16, 2007, 04:19 am	#19 (permalink) (top)
pam699 BANNED Posts: 583	well dean claims it is becuase it just ends in self-contradiction or meaninglessness

Mar 16, 2007, 02:01 pm	#20 (permalink) (top)
Osborn F Enready Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873	Dean seems to be an imbecile as well as in denial of nature. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready